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LIST OF ROUTES/FLIGHTS WITH BEST SEATS - update 21 April, 2017. Flights looked up for week of June 12, 2017
IMPORTANT NOTES :
- This is the list of "BEST"-operated routes for a typical week during the summer season in June 2017.
- Some of the routes listed below may see a non-BEST aircraft operating the flight some day(s) of the week
- Last minute aircraft substitution is always possible

NORTH AMERICA

- BOS (AF334/333) : on days the flight operates with a B772
- IAD (AF026/027)
- IAH (AF636/639)
- JFK (AF032/019) : operating from ORY
- JFK (AF022/023)
- JFK (AF008/009)
- LAX (AF072/073)
- LAX-PPT (AF076/077)
- SFO (AF082/083)
- YUL (AF342/345) : on certain days
- YUL (AF344/345 B787-9)
- YVR (AF374/379)

CENTRAL & LATIN AMERICAS
- EZE/MVD (AF394/393)
- EZE (AF228/229)
- SCL (AF406/407) : on certain days
- GRU (AF456/459)
- GRU (AF454/457)
- PTY (AF474/475)
- CAY (AF852/853)
- CUN (AF650/651)
- HAV (AF820/825)

ASIA
- BOM (AF218/217)
- HKG (AF188/185)
- HND (AF274/293)
- KIX (AF292/291)
- NRT (AF276/275)
- NRT (AF272/271)
- PEK (AF382/381)
- PVG (AF112/117)
- PVG (AF116/111) : only on days when the flight is B777-operated (A380 has no BEST cabins at the moment)
- CAN (AF102/107)
- SIN (AF256/257)
- SGN (AF258/257)

AFRICA
- ABJ (AF702/703) : only on days when the flight is B777-operated (A380 has no BEST cabins at the moment)
- BKO-ABJ (AF520/521)
- ACC (AF780/781)
- DLA-NSI (AF982)
- BGF-NSI (AF775/775)
- NSI (AF900/901)
- LBV (AF976/977)
- LAD (AF928/929)

MIDDLE EAST
- BEY (AF566/565)
- CAI (AF570/567 B787-9)
- DXB (AF662/643)

CONFIGURATIONS OF THE B777 FLEET
Note : this list is not up-to-date
Boeing 777-200ER 309 seats J-W-Y without new cabins : 4/25

Code:

F-GSPA – NEV4
 F-GSPE – NEV4
 F-GSPM – NEV4
 F-GSPZ – NEV4

Boeing 777-200ER in modification process : 2/25

Code:

F-GSPD
 F-GSPP

Boeing 777-200ER 280 seats or 316 seats "quick change" J-W-Y with new cabins : 16/25

Code:

F-GSPB – BEST
 F-GSPC – BEST
 F-GSPF – BEST
 F-GSPG – BEST
 F-GSPH – BEST
 F-GSPI – BEST
 F-GSPJ - BEST
 F-GSPK – BEST
 F-GSPQ – BEST
 F-GSPR – BEST
 F-GSPS – BEST
 F-GSPT – BEST
 F-GSPU – BEST
 F-GSPV – BEST
 F-GSPX – BEST
 F-GSPY – BEST
 
 
 or

Boeing 777-200ER 312 seats (28J) J-W-Y with new cabins : 3/25

Code:

F-GSPL – BEST
 F-GSPO – BEST
 F-GSPN – BEST

Boeing 777-300ER 303 seats P-J-W-Y without new cabins : 0/43

Code:

All Converted to BEST

Boeing 777-300ER 381 seats J-W-Y without new cabins : 5/43

Code:

F-GSQD – NEV4
 F-GSQE – NEV4
 F-GZNH – NEV4
 F-GZNI – NEV4
 F-GZNJ - NEV4
 F-GZNK – NEV4

Boeing 777-300ER in modification process : 0/43

Boeing 777-300ER 296 seats or 322 seats "quick change" P-J-W-Y with new cabins : 20/43

Code:

F-GSQA – BEST
 F-GSQB – BEST
 F-GSQC – BEST
 F-GSQF – BEST
 F-GSQG – BEST
 F-GSQH – BEST
 F-GSQI – BEST
 F-GSQJ – BEST
 F-GSQK – BEST
 F-GSQL – BEST
 F-GSQY – BEST
 F-GSQM – BEST
 F-GSQU - BEST
 F-GSQV – BEST
 F-GSQY – BEST
 F-GZNA – BEST
 F-GZNB - BEST
 F-GZNC – BEST
 F-GZND - BEST
 F-GZNE – BEST
 
 
 or

Boeing 777-300ER 468 seats J-W-Y "CIO" without new cabins : 12/43

Code:

F-GSQN – NEV4
 F-GSQO – NEV4
 F-GSQP – NEV4
 F-GSQR – NEV4
 F-GSQS – NEV4
 F-GSQT – NEV4
 F-GSQX – NEV4
 F-GZNF – NEV4
 F-GZNG – NEV4
 F-GZNL – NEV4
 F-GZNN – NEV4
 F-GZNO – NEV4

Boeing 777-300ER 381 seats J-W-Y with old J and new W-Y : 6/43

Code:

F-GZNP – NEV4 (delivered new from Boeing in April 2015)
 F-GZNQ – NEV4 (delivered new from Boeing in May 2015)
 F-GZNR – NEV4 (delivered new from Boeing in November 2015)
 F-GZNS - NEV4 (delivered new from Boeing in March 2016)
 F-GZNT - NEV4 (delivered new from Boeing in March 2016)
 F-GZNU - NEV4 (delivered new from Boeing in April 2016)

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May 19, 2017, 2:19 pm

#991

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Originally Posted by Colin

Would I be crazy to chose this later flight over the mid-day AF72 CDG-LAX 77W, which I assume is a sure-thing best J seat?

I fail to see why one would find you crazy for this !

May 28, 2017, 12:32 pm

#992

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Quote:

Originally Posted by HAPPYLIFE

I'm flying MIA-CDG in September. Right now the seat maps show 2-3-2 configuration for Business class. Do you know if the plane will have the "old" 2-3-2 seats or will they at least be "refurbished" 2-3-2 seats?

Quote:

Originally Posted by wuzziduzziman

It will have the "old" (=NEV4) seat. Refurbished BEST would have a 1-2-1 config.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Goldorak

They are based in a France, so this is the other way around. The plane which flies CDG-SFO turns around 2 or 3 hrs later for SFO-CDG.

From reading the posts on this thread, is seems like the AF product and seat improvements are pretty inconsistent. Is it possible that the "new" Business Class seats will be on MIA-CDG by September - either on purpose or because of a lucky plane swap?

May 28, 2017, 7:33 pm

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Originally Posted by HAPPYLIFE

Anything is possible.

May 28, 2017, 10:02 pm

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I would rather have said: nothing is impossible

May 29, 2017, 3:02 am

#995

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Another SFO-CDG segment in NEV4 ... they just couldn't put the BEST there on the day I needed to fly. At least, on the way back, I got 1A seat in 747 AMS-SFO

May 30, 2017, 11:53 am

#996

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I know this is titled 777 but what seats are likely to be on A340 from CDG to SXM and back in November 17?

May 30, 2017, 11:43 pm

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Originally Posted by Beduffshirl

I know this is titled 777 but what seats are likely to be on A340 from CDG to SXM and back in November 17?

100% certainty this will be a NEV seat. The A340s won't be refurbished to BEST.

BTW, do we have confirmation now that the 777 refurbishment program is complete? Those 777s that are still with NEV seats will keep them?

May 31, 2017, 5:09 am

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Originally Posted by San Gottardo

BTW, do we have confirmation now that the 777 refurbishment program is complete? Those 777s that are still with NEV seats will keep them?

I don't think it is the case. But no updated refurbishment plan has been issued so far.

May 31, 2017, 1:37 pm

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100% certainty this will be a NEV seat. The A340s won't be refurbished to BEST.

Yes NEV4. A very easy case

A343 are leaving the fleet, so no refurbishment.

May 31, 2017, 6:10 pm

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Choosing between AMS and CDG to SFO in December (in J). AF still has the NEV4 77W rostered. (Seems odd for a "premium" route?)

Would I be better choosing the KLM route? I'm new to AF/KL.

Thanks!

May 31, 2017, 6:26 pm

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Maybe consider another airline, one guaranteed to give you lie flat seats.

OTOH, AF may offer better food and alcoholic drinks than other airlines who have lie flats.

May 31, 2017, 11:57 pm

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Choosing between AMS and CDG to SFO in December (in J). AF still has the NEV4 77W rostered. (Seems odd for a "premium" route?)

Would I be better choosing the KLM route? I'm new to AF/KL.

Thanks!

The NEV4 seat is not bad at all in term of comfort. Just avoid to be in the middle seat.
You might be surprised of this but SFO is not so much a premium destination, relatively of course. This is true for several EU/US airlines. LAX is usually much more premium, especially for AF.

Jun 1, 2017, 12:07 am

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Hmm, so do all AF flights between LAX and CDG have the BEST seats?

Jun 1, 2017, 12:12 am

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Hmm, so do all AF flights between LAX and CDG have the BEST seats?

No.

Jun 1, 2017, 12:37 am

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Originally Posted by Goldorak

Well indeed. I would be surprised if LA wasn't a more important destination for any airline, with the exception of United. Thanks for the seat tips.