No La Premiere Lounge Access on Arrival??

Old Nov 28, 2012, 5:04 am
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Hi,
i flew JFK > MRS mid november on AF in P - I was escorted from the incoming plane in CDG ( AF007 ) to the La Première lounge and then again to the plane to MRS ( impressive arrival in La Navette ).
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Old Oct 12, 2018, 1:33 pm
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This thread is dated, so I'll ask the question. If I'm flying JFK-CDG on AF on a paid F fare ticket and then connecting to NCE on a paid J fare ticket also on AF, will I have access to the La Premiere Lounge at CDG on my layover?
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Old Oct 12, 2018, 3:19 pm
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I've flown several times in the last year on paid F/La Premiere on AF from the US/Asia/Africa connecting to a domestic AF flight (which only offers economy but is sometimes listed as "business" on the ticket) and have always either been driven or escorted to the La Premiere lounge for my layover. Always.
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Old Oct 12, 2018, 3:54 pm
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Originally Posted by PremiumSeat
This thread is dated, so I'll ask the question. If I'm flying JFK-CDG on AF on a paid F fare ticket and then connecting to NCE on a paid J fare ticket also on AF, will I have access to the La Premiere Lounge at CDG on my layover?
Is the flight to NCE on a separate ticket? Since you specifically mention that this segment is also paid, it implies that it was booked separately?
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Old Oct 12, 2018, 5:35 pm
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I was actually refused entry to the Air France arrivals lounge in 2C a couple of weeks ago on an Economy ticket. I was a bit surprised, because I found the whole lounge access thing really consistent on SkyTeam, unlike the mess that Lufthansa and all that chickenwings stuff is. With the perks of elite status, I never assume I am going to get them, because I have had too many surprises. But if you're in the premium cabins you should get it.
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Old Oct 13, 2018, 2:03 am
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Originally Posted by PremiumSeat
This thread is dated, so I'll ask the question. If I'm flying JFK-CDG on AF on a paid F fare ticket and then connecting to NCE on a paid J fare ticket also on AF, will I have access to the La Premiere Lounge at CDG on my layover?
yes you will

Originally Posted by Xandrios
Is the flight to NCE on a separate ticket? Since you specifically mention that this segment is also paid, it implies that it was booked separately?
the fact that the domestic segment is booked in J makes it obviously booked on the same ticket
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Old Oct 13, 2018, 2:05 am
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Originally Posted by Concerto
I was actually refused entry to the Air France arrivals lounge in 2C a couple of weeks ago on an Economy ticket. I was a bit surprised, because I found the whole lounge access thing really consistent on SkyTeam, unlike the mess that Lufthansa and all that chickenwings stuff is. With the perks of elite status, I never assume I am going to get them, because I have had too many surprises. But if you're in the premium cabins you should get it.
Arrival lounge has specific access rules which are described in the dedicated thread for this lounge. You were likely on a Skyteam airline other than AF/DL or on an AF flight but booked under a code-share.
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Old Oct 13, 2018, 3:04 am
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Originally Posted by Concerto
I was actually refused entry to the Air France arrivals lounge in 2C a couple of weeks ago on an Economy ticket. I was a bit surprised, because I found the whole lounge access thing really consistent on SkyTeam....
Skyteam has no Arrival Lounge benefits. AF CDG 2C Arrival Lounge has its own rules. You not only need to arrive on AF longhaul premium cabin but also on AF/KL ticket stock.

https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/air-...cdg-2c-37.html
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Old Oct 13, 2018, 4:06 am
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Originally Posted by Concerto
I was actually refused entry to the Air France arrivals lounge in 2C a couple of weeks ago on an Economy ticket. I was a bit surprised, because I found the whole lounge access thing really consistent on SkyTeam, unlike the mess that Lufthansa and all that chickenwings stuff is. With the perks of elite status, I never assume I am going to get them, because I have had too many surprises. But if you're in the premium cabins you should get it.
The last rules:

The T2C arrivals lounge at CDG, located in the public zone opposite entrance C10, welcomes all customers on arrival from all flights at CDG and offers them the opportunity to get back into shape after their flight.

It is open from 05:30 to 14:00.

The arrivals lounge services
Several exclusive services are offered:

  • 14 shower cubicles,
  • an ironing station,
  • a dining area with offering continental breakfast,
  • all the usual services: TV area, internet area with PCs, Wi-Fi, international press.
Eligible passengers:

Free access for:
  • La Première customers
  • AF/KL/DL Marketing Business customers arriving on a Long-Haul flight
  • AF/KL Marketing Flying Blue Elite Plus customers arriving on a Long-haul flight
  • Business customers arriving on all flights and in connection with TGVAIR and AIR&RAIL
Paid access:
Subject to availability

AF/KL Marketing customers arriving on a Medium-Haul flight
  • SkyTeam Marketing customers
  • DL Elite Plus Marketing customers arriving on a Long-Haul flight
  • Other airline marketing customers, etc.
Rates

Before 10:00: EUR 50
After 10:00: EUR 35

Payment by bank card only on entering the lounge

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Old Oct 13, 2018, 4:23 am
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Originally Posted by Goldorak

the fact that the domestic segment is booked in J makes it obviously booked on the same ticket
Oh right..I now realise that there is no business cabin on this flight. So it won't be possible to book separately. My bad!
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Old Oct 13, 2018, 4:30 am
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Originally Posted by TerryK
Skyteam has no Arrival Lounge benefits. AF CDG 2C Arrival Lounge has its own rules. You not only need to arrive on AF longhaul premium cabin but also on AF/KL ticket stock.
Are you sure about that? AIUI, your flight must be AF/KL-marketed, i.e. carry an AF or KL flight number (at least if flying in Y). OTOH, I can't quite see why the ticket stock should matter.
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Old Oct 13, 2018, 5:32 am
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Are you sure about that? AIUI, your flight must be AF/KL-marketed, i.e. carry an AF or KL flight number (at least if flying in Y). OTOH, I can't quite see why the ticket stock should matter.
That's what I was told. I was turned away at 2C Arrival Lounge arriving on AF Business Class. I filed a complaint and response was:

I do understand that you were travelling on AF, however, because of the ticket stock purchased by China Southern and it not being their ticket stock was the reason you were denied. Their policy is, if it is not their stock, even traveling on their aircraft, you would not be allowed access. I hope this helps, and gain [sic] I apologize for the inconvenience and thank you for your loyalty.
Perhaps they actually meant marketing airline code when they said ticket stock?
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Old Oct 13, 2018, 6:31 am
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Originally Posted by TerryK
That's what I was told. I was turned away at 2C Arrival Lounge arriving on AF Business Class. I filed a complaint and response was:



Perhaps they actually meant marketing airline code when they said ticket stock?
Were you booked under AF or CZ code? If the latter, I would strongly suspect that the person did confuse ticketing carrier and marketing carrier in his or her answer.
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Old Oct 13, 2018, 6:53 am
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Ticket stock doesn’t matter. Marketing carrier code does.
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Old Oct 13, 2018, 7:15 am
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Originally Posted by Goldorak

Arrival lounge has specific access rules which are described in the dedicated thread for this lounge. You were likely on a Skyteam airline other than AF/DL or on an AF flight but booked under a code-share.
Originally Posted by TerryK
Skyteam has no Arrival Lounge benefits. AF CDG 2C Arrival Lounge has its own rules. You not only need to arrive on AF longhaul premium cabin but also on AF/KL ticket stock.

https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/air-...cdg-2c-37.html
Originally Posted by delanotre
The last rules:

The T2C arrivals lounge at CDG, located in the public zone opposite entrance C10, welcomes all customers on arrival from all flights at CDG and offers them the opportunity to get back into shape after their flight.

It is open from 05:30 to 14:00.

The arrivals lounge services
Several exclusive services are offered:
  • 14 shower cubicles,
  • an ironing station,
  • a dining area with offering continental breakfast,
  • all the usual services: TV area, internet area with PCs, Wi-Fi, international press.
Eligible passengers:

Free access for:
  • La Première customers
  • AF/KL/DL Marketing Business customers arriving on a Long-Haul flight
  • AF/KL Marketing Flying Blue Elite Plus customers arriving on a Long-haul flight
  • Business customers arriving on all flights and in connection with TGVAIR and AIR&RAIL
Paid access:
Subject to availability

AF/KL Marketing customers arriving on a Medium-Haul flight
  • SkyTeam Marketing customers
  • DL Elite Plus Marketing customers arriving on a Long-Haul flight
  • Other airline marketing customers, etc.
Rates

Before 10:00: EUR 50
After 10:00: EUR 35

Payment by bank card only on entering the lounge
You are all absolutely right, I was arriving on another SkyTeam carrier. Thank you for these clarifications. It was really no problem as I had an appointment to get to in Paris by 09h00. But I will add that the lady at the lounge desk was incredibly nice. She insisted on fetching me a coffee (un bon café), a croissant and a pain au chocolat!!
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