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#16
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What I just don't understand is why they make 2 different lines and then start boarding the two together, sometimes the normal one even first, so no real 'priority' for the priority line. Hate it when I'm at the gate just before boarding starts but still have to wait in the jetway because they don't want to hold the normal line for a few minutes.
#17
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Nah. It was an intelligence test for elites to determine which would be clever enough to switch to the shorter queue. From your description, it would seem that most failed miserably.
#18
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I think anybody would expect that the normal line would be held until the priority line was finished, like they do at AMS. And, when in line, you can't switch to the other since they are separated.
#19
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At boarding time both lines opened simultaneously though. As this was a flight to AMS it had at least 50% elites on board. This resulted in a huge SkyPriority line, and a medium 'normal' line. Since both opened at the same time, most people in the normal line boarded first
CDG even does this with the long-haul flights, but thankfully the elite line is quite a bit shorter than the other one. AMS is always good though.
#20
Join Date: Jul 2009
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I just made a CDG-YUL flight last monday on the A388 and I can tell you that they begin boarding with P,J and elites:they checked the BP of people in skypriority line and then allow us to board before opening the Y line.
I was just surprised that they boarded families after elites (and before Y).
Another change in 2E: the J checkin counters are 6 & 7 (it used to be 8&9) and it seems that they split elite in Y and people travelling in J: left for elite in Y, J if you are flying business.
I was just surprised that they boarded families after elites (and before Y).
Another change in 2E: the J checkin counters are 6 & 7 (it used to be 8&9) and it seems that they split elite in Y and people travelling in J: left for elite in Y, J if you are flying business.
#21
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Took a flight today from CDG to LIS. No skypriority sign at the gate and no priority boarding offered. What a shame!
By the way, did anybody notice, that they moved Access#1 at terminal 2D from opposite the lounge to the far end towards terminal 2B. I wonder how many elites are coming from 2B? It would make much more sense to have a fast track towards 2E or 2F where you come in a hurry to make your AF connections.
By the way, did anybody notice, that they moved Access#1 at terminal 2D from opposite the lounge to the far end towards terminal 2B. I wonder how many elites are coming from 2B? It would make much more sense to have a fast track towards 2E or 2F where you come in a hurry to make your AF connections.
#22
AF at CDG 2F needs to get its act together. Not once (when boarding directly through the jetway) has there been any priority boarding (neither during the old regime nor the new sky priority) to any of the numerous GVA flights I have taken. Even if the screen shows row 19-26 to board first, it's a run for your life and the wider your elbows the further/quicker you get there
They should have the same boarding queues they have at some gates at AMS and not let anyone else board before at least half of the Sky Priority line has gone onboard...
They should have the same boarding queues they have at some gates at AMS and not let anyone else board before at least half of the Sky Priority line has gone onboard...
#23
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I have sympathy for everything except the following:
"Terrible queue for security check at ORY (and no fast track as usual). More than 40 minutes to wait."
Security should be the same for everyone.
[moderator note: this post was originally in reply to this thread http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/air-f...y-evening.html, but was moved to the SkyPriority thread, because of its focus]
"Terrible queue for security check at ORY (and no fast track as usual). More than 40 minutes to wait."
Security should be the same for everyone.
[moderator note: this post was originally in reply to this thread http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/air-f...y-evening.html, but was moved to the SkyPriority thread, because of its focus]
Last edited by JOUY31; Apr 16, 2012 at 8:06 am
#24
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#26
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(my comment: despite the fact that, to put it delicately, the practice reaches beyond the boundaries of the French legal framework)
Originally Posted by Cour des Comptes
"S'agissant des files dédiées aux voyageurs de premičre classe et de classe affaires qui constituent une atteinte ŕ l'égalité des usagers devant un service public régalien, ADP considčre que la fréquence de cette pratique dans les aéroports comparables en rend nécessaire le maintien."
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#27
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This issue has been raised in two reports by the Cour des Comptes. The official reply by the ADP Chairman and CEO is that, as this is standard practice in competing hubs in neighboring countries, it is necessary to implement it at Parisian airports so that they are not put at a disadvantage.
(my comment: despite the fact that, to put it delicately, the practice reaches beyond the boundaries of the French legal framework)
(my comment: despite the fact that, to put it delicately, the practice reaches beyond the boundaries of the French legal framework)
Last edited by JOUY31; Apr 15, 2012 at 4:40 am Reason: profanity removed
#28
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Interesting point.
As a frequent flyer, I do enjoy a lot fast track (same thing for boarding at the time I like).
But I would be more than happy that anybody can pass security in less than 5 minutes (as I do most of the times at T2F) or 10 minutes (T2E).
As a frequent flyer, I do enjoy a lot fast track (same thing for boarding at the time I like).
But I would be more than happy that anybody can pass security in less than 5 minutes (as I do most of the times at T2F) or 10 minutes (T2E).
#29
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We would need a Ryanair with only leisure pax to challenge this. When will FR fly out of Schengen from CDG? :-)
#30
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Passport control and immigration are a state service, "standing in line" is not. As far as I know the passport controls are the same for all passengers.