Dec 9, 2019, 2:03 pm
Last edit by: Adam Smith
This thread is about AC giving a free bump up in status when one is very, very, very close to the next status level at year end.
THIS IS NOT A THREAD ABOUT STATUS BUY-UP OFFERS
FOR STATUS BUY-UP OFFERS, REFER TO THIS THREAD
THIS IS NOT A THREAD ABOUT STATUS BUY-UP OFFERS
FOR STATUS BUY-UP OFFERS, REFER TO THIS THREAD
FAQ: I am X miles/segments/dollars short of status. Will AC give it anyway?
Nov 23, 2018, 9:59 pm
#406
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Bumping this thread for recent experiences. If my calculations are correct I will end the year only $2 above the AQD threshold to renew S100K. However I am not sure I trust myself much on those calculations. If instead I fall a few dollars short, how many of you got renewed S100K last year despite being a bit short, so they gave you a break? How many have the opposite experience that they applied the AQD threshold with an iron fist?
I am wondering if I should book a flight I do not need in December just to cover my potential ineptitude to calculate AQD
I am wondering if I should book a flight I do not need in December just to cover my potential ineptitude to calculate AQD
Nov 23, 2018, 10:32 pm
#408
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If you're worried, I'd inquire about the cost to upfare from TG to FL or FL to CO within the same fare class. On my domestic flights this year, it was never more than $50.
But you should be able to determine your actual AQD based on the tickets, as long as they're in CAD.
But you should be able to determine your actual AQD based on the tickets, as long as they're in CAD.
Dec 4, 2018, 2:19 pm
#409
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Chance of E75 with 74 segments (AQD is met)
I know AC has in the past "rounded up" for those that are very close on AQM (and typically have met AQD), but any experiences on whether they've done the same for those qualifying on segments? Have a friend who is scheduled to end the year with 74 segments, but is well past the AQD requirements for E75. In past years, have others been given the higher status when they've met AQD, but are off by 1 segment (e.g. 49/50 for E50, 74/75 for E75)? Unfortunately there isn't a practical opportunity to add a segment to an existing trip, and the difference in benefits between E50 vs. E75 is fairly marginal and may not warrant a separate segment run.
I fully realize that the only way to guarantee status is to fly an extra segment, so I don't need responses saying that the only way to guarantee is to fly an extra segment (I know this). What I was hoping to see if whether there have been some examples in recent years of those who may have been close (i.e. 1 segment away), but have got the higher status without having to file a special request/appeal. Basically, have there been any past examples, and is there a decent chance?
There was "trip in vain" due to an AC irrop that cut out one segment earlier in the year (if it wasn't for that, the 75 segments would be met), so there's also a good case to appeal for the E75 status if it's not granted off hand, but I know those requests may not get reviewed for some time and can take a while, so would likely not have to go down that route except as a last resort.
I fully realize that the only way to guarantee status is to fly an extra segment, so I don't need responses saying that the only way to guarantee is to fly an extra segment (I know this). What I was hoping to see if whether there have been some examples in recent years of those who may have been close (i.e. 1 segment away), but have got the higher status without having to file a special request/appeal. Basically, have there been any past examples, and is there a decent chance?
There was "trip in vain" due to an AC irrop that cut out one segment earlier in the year (if it wasn't for that, the 75 segments would be met), so there's also a good case to appeal for the E75 status if it's not granted off hand, but I know those requests may not get reviewed for some time and can take a while, so would likely not have to go down that route except as a last resort.
Dec 4, 2018, 3:21 pm
#410
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I know AC has in the past "rounded up" for those that are very close on AQM (and typically have met AQD), but any experiences on whether they've done the same for those qualifying on segments? Have a friend who is scheduled to end the year with 74 segments, but is well past the AQD requirements for E75. In past years, have others been given the higher status when they've met AQD, but are off by 1 segment (e.g. 49/50 for E50, 74/75 for E75)? Unfortunately there isn't a practical opportunity to add a segment to an existing trip, and the difference in benefits between E50 vs. E75 is fairly marginal and may not warrant a separate segment run.
I fully realize that the only way to guarantee status is to fly an extra segment, so I don't need responses saying that the only way to guarantee is to fly an extra segment (I know this). What I was hoping to see if whether there have been some examples in recent years of those who may have been close (i.e. 1 segment away), but have got the higher status without having to file a special request/appeal. Basically, have there been any past examples, and is there a decent chance?
There was "trip in vain" due to an AC irrop that cut out one segment earlier in the year (if it wasn't for that, the 75 segments would be met), so there's also a good case to appeal for the E75 status if it's not granted off hand, but I know those requests may not get reviewed for some time and can take a while, so would likely not have to go down that route except as a last resort.
I fully realize that the only way to guarantee status is to fly an extra segment, so I don't need responses saying that the only way to guarantee is to fly an extra segment (I know this). What I was hoping to see if whether there have been some examples in recent years of those who may have been close (i.e. 1 segment away), but have got the higher status without having to file a special request/appeal. Basically, have there been any past examples, and is there a decent chance?
There was "trip in vain" due to an AC irrop that cut out one segment earlier in the year (if it wasn't for that, the 75 segments would be met), so there's also a good case to appeal for the E75 status if it's not granted off hand, but I know those requests may not get reviewed for some time and can take a while, so would likely not have to go down that route except as a last resort.
Since it's only 1 AQS and well past the AQD requirement, I think chances are fairly good, but as you said, it may not be worth a MR.
Dec 5, 2018, 1:57 am
#411
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Lufthansa K fare segments
Hi,
I’m an Air Canada Super Elite 100K frequent flyer.
I recently completed 4 flight segments on Lufthansa and learned that I cannot get credit for the miles or segments as it is a K fare.
I do not care much about the miles but I need the 4 Segments to requalify as a Super Elite for 2019.
Does anyone have experience with Air Canada recognizing these segments and giving Super Elite Status?
With the 4 segments I would reach exactly 95 Segments needed for Super Elite status.
I’m an Air Canada Super Elite 100K frequent flyer.
I recently completed 4 flight segments on Lufthansa and learned that I cannot get credit for the miles or segments as it is a K fare.
I do not care much about the miles but I need the 4 Segments to requalify as a Super Elite for 2019.
Does anyone have experience with Air Canada recognizing these segments and giving Super Elite Status?
With the 4 segments I would reach exactly 95 Segments needed for Super Elite status.
Dec 5, 2018, 6:48 am
#412
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Hi,
I’m an Air Canada Super Elite 100K frequent flyer.
I recently completed 4 flight segments on Lufthansa and learned that I cannot get credit for the miles or segments as it is a K fare.
I do not care much about the miles but I need the 4 Segments to requalify as a Super Elite for 2019.
Does anyone have experience with Air Canada recognizing these segments and giving Super Elite Status?
With the 4 segments I would reach exactly 95 Segments needed for Super Elite status.
I’m an Air Canada Super Elite 100K frequent flyer.
I recently completed 4 flight segments on Lufthansa and learned that I cannot get credit for the miles or segments as it is a K fare.
I do not care much about the miles but I need the 4 Segments to requalify as a Super Elite for 2019.
Does anyone have experience with Air Canada recognizing these segments and giving Super Elite Status?
With the 4 segments I would reach exactly 95 Segments needed for Super Elite status.
According to Aeroplan, https://www.aeroplan.com/earn_miles/...fthansaAirways Lufthansa K fare does not earn AQM, therefore nor AQS.
AC may grant you SE anyways, but I would not count on it. I would do a 4 segment run if I were you. Good Luck!
Dec 5, 2018, 8:18 am
#413
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I would just hope they give E75K automatically. If not, I think there's a reconsideration email that starts looking at situations like this in March.
Since it's only 1 AQS and well past the AQD requirement, I think chances are fairly good, but as you said, it may not be worth a MR.
Since it's only 1 AQS and well past the AQD requirement, I think chances are fairly good, but as you said, it may not be worth a MR.
Dec 5, 2018, 8:32 am
#414
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Just to add there are also examples on this forum of people offered a buy up who declined it and still got the status. AC also offered people buy up after they had actually passed the qualification. Clearly their systems aren’t tied up.
There are or course counter examples too, and people who didn’t get offered the buy up at all.
AC have the mailbox set to auto respond we’ll ignore your email until March (or words to that effect). Which strikes me as just an obnoxious customer service fail. Flame away.
There are or course counter examples too, and people who didn’t get offered the buy up at all.
AC have the mailbox set to auto respond we’ll ignore your email until March (or words to that effect). Which strikes me as just an obnoxious customer service fail. Flame away.
Dec 8, 2018, 11:05 am
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I would invent an extra trip somewhere for the 9,000 miles. (In fact I did. I had a trip planned in November which I had to cancel because of an injury, which would end up leaving me at around 95 k miles. Next trip in Dec was planned with return in January. I changed the latter return to Dec. 31... Should end up with around 150 miles over 100k.
Dec 8, 2018, 11:20 am
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Alaska gave me status already for next year being 22 miles short 
. Great service! Doubt AC would be as nice!
. Great service! Doubt AC would be as nice!
Dec 8, 2018, 12:30 pm
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Dec 8, 2018, 6:03 pm
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Just as in other cases, I would not count on it. Especially since they have implemented giving you an offer, pay so much and we'll bump you up.
I would invent an extra trip somewhere for the 9,000 miles. (In fact I did. I had a trip planned in November which I had to cancel because of an injury, which would end up leaving me at around 95 k miles. Next trip in Dec was planned with return in January. I changed the latter return to Dec. 31... Should end up with around 150 miles over 100k.
I would invent an extra trip somewhere for the 9,000 miles. (In fact I did. I had a trip planned in November which I had to cancel because of an injury, which would end up leaving me at around 95 k miles. Next trip in Dec was planned with return in January. I changed the latter return to Dec. 31... Should end up with around 150 miles over 100k.