AC Route Reductions
 

Heard AC is planning route reductions.
Hope this does not incl. overseas like
AC:15 or the popular YYZ/EZE routes.
Losing their jockey shorts on 1st travel
like most other carriers. CX is getting
clobbered by 1st Class reductions and
cargo loses.

Future??
Looks like no MO Biz. class. They will likely
expand 'Y'. They need it for the AC:15 to
HKG. and also YYZ/EZE flights.
dbase

Damned if I know what you're saying.

"Heard" :rolleyes:

If AC stays true to form teh cuts will be ex-YVR and the centre of the universe will remain unscathed. :td:

I don't think AC will be removing seats on their wide-body fleet. They only installed them in the past few years, and I doubt that they are that easy to remove and replace with Y seats. Don't forget that when AC refurbished their fleet they reduced the number of J seats on the 763's and the 333's.

when AC talks about cutting..all they truly want is CUT STAFF end of topic

AC is running a business.... not a charity:rolleyes:

Not really difficult to remove and replace. A couple rows of the J seats could be removed and replaced by an enthusiastic tech crew on an overnight at YYZ/YUL/YVR.


If they really want to reduce staffing levels, airport fees, and costs, they're going to have to start flying the widebodies domestically far more frequently, and the current int'l configurations are wholly innappropriate for the domestic market.

Just like the good old days, 77W YVR-YYZ, 6X daily, would save AC millions compared to what they're running now.

perhaps in the Airbus/Embraers a row of J could be removed fairly quickly, but not the pods. I'd wager it would take several days to remove a row of pods as the last row is different than the others.

of course that serves them quickly, but then they lose their competitive advantage in the west vs westjet. they'd be no different than them.

the real value to AC in the western locations is they have more flights more often. 9 times out of 10 when I'm flying to YVR my choice is A/C primarily due to departure/arrival options.

Though every AC flight I've been on to YVR that has been on the widebodies from YYZ has been full both in Y and J, so obviously there is demand on the route.

You'll probably see more seats trimmed on the shorter/smaller routes. Routes like YWG-YYZ which have been getting trimmed a flight every year or so... that adds up quickly if you chop a flight from most domestic routes.

Doubt you will see a cut on YVR-HKG as that's a heavy cargo route... the plane can fly half full of passengers which is fine if the cargo is full... I remember the last time I flew the route there were 50 seats open, but the agents said they couldn't let any standby on as cargo took priority. More bucks for A/C. (and really that's the way to run the business)

If I had to bet, I'd put money on the bulk of the cuts coming from transborder. Demand seems to be going from bad to worse, and Porter putting the brakes on the gravy train in the US northeast probably isn't helping.

...more T/B flying being downgauged to Jazz & Air Georgian perhaps?

Maybe Jazz with the Q400s :)

AC is restricted by their scope clause with ACPA to sending more flying to Jazz or Tier 3 carriers. One reason why another trip through CCAA would have done them good.

Well, they are doing well from the YOW-EWR route or YOW-LGA route with highish fares from yield managemetn but I think loads are low. Maybe they can code share with Continental for EWR once CO joins Star Alliance.

With CO flying ERJ YOW-EWR, and AC flying CRJ YOW-LGA direct flights are pricing around 600-700+ even with 2+ week advance booking so AC seem to be pricing sowhat around the same level as CO. But CO flights YOW-EWR-MCO for example are often half the price even when I pick the same flight segments YOW-EWR - yield management at work.