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So we can all get a handle on how they are going to work in the real world, how much they will cost, et c.

Post flight, date, route, original fare basis (T, T+, Lat, etc), and if known, seat inventory (i.e. J9, C7, Z5, I3). If you do upgrade, please also let us know how many empty J seats there were in the cabin, if any. And if you were considering a certificate upgrade, why or why you didn't opt for the LMU.

It would be helpful if this thread could be limited to "just the facts" and no discussion, which could be posted elsewhere. That should make this thread more useful for everyone.

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Old Sep 26, 2012, 6:06 pm
  #871  
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: YVR
Programs: aeroplan Elite, Priority Club. HHonours
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Originally Posted by SKYEG
YEG-YVR $229
YVR-LAX $299



Every YEG-YVR I take it goes up in price..

declined both. I was really hoping for the YVR-LAX $99 that a FTer got a month or so ago




YYC-LHR has also gone up - 50% since end of April now offered at $1598.

The LHR - YYC return has also increased apprx 50% since April. I declined both
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Old Sep 27, 2012, 4:47 pm
  #872  
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: YYZ/DLC
Programs: AP, HHonours Diamond
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Originally Posted by yqtyyz
The last few posts seem to indicate the fee + taxes. Here's my YYZ-HKG LMU:

Departure City: TORONTO-T1 YYZ
Destination City: HONG KONG HK HKG

Fee Breakdown:
Paid Upgrade AC015 YYZ-HKG - 899.00 CAD

Fee - 899.00 CAD

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Total (per passenger) - 899.00 CAD
Total - 899.00 CAD

There wasn't any HST charged to my card, so perhaps it's really $899-13%?
That's a sweet price.

AC 15 YYZ-HKG yesterday on AP tix.

$948 No HST.

Took it as it's good value for the ultra-longhaul.

On a side note, J was half full at best at door close. I wonder if some business pax have jumped ship and switched to CX and their new product.
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Old Sep 27, 2012, 4:50 pm
  #873  
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: +61
Programs: SQ*PPS, QF-WP1 & LTG, VA-Gold, Marriott*LTT, Hilton*Gold, Accor*Platinum
Posts: 5,735
Maybe low LMU prices on long-haul trans-Pac implies better likelihood of upgrades?
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Old Sep 27, 2012, 7:05 pm
  #874  
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: YUL
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AC LMU - at least within North America - is a rip off.

American is offering a paid upgrade to their "first" on the YUL-MIA route for CAD 165 all in. And the economy booking class N moves to business C.
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Old Sep 27, 2012, 7:31 pm
  #875  
 
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Originally Posted by payam81
On a side note, J was half full at best at door close. I wonder if some business pax have jumped ship and switched to CX and their new product.
Price. AC has the most expensive discount business class fare from YYZ-HKG.

Example fare: Outbound 01-Dec-2012 Return 16-Dec-2012

AC $7,147
CX $6,648
UA $5,950
TK $5,878
LH $6,715
LX $6,216
DL $5,407
9W $6,108
KE $4,549

Why does one want to fly AC, unless one is "roped" to AC through some corporate arrangements?

The price difference of $500 more expensive than CX is "laughable". Both offering non-stop service and CX will also throw in a pair of HKG-TPE, or HKG-PVG, or HKG-PEK return business class ticket for you at no additional cost. A nice short side trip. CX's new J seat is very nice.

Last edited by Clipper801; Sep 28, 2012 at 11:16 am Reason: Add price for DL, 9W and KE.
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Old Sep 28, 2012, 1:35 am
  #876  
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: YYC - not the centre of the universe
Programs: AC*S100K 1MM, LH FTL, Hyatt Globalist, Accor Plat
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I flew AA C ORD-YYZ and hated every minute of it. I'm glad that AC charges "rip-off" prices for LMUs - at any cost I would hate if AC J became like AA/UA/US "F".

Back to the costs of LMU.

My teacher (ex-AC*E) was flying YUL-BCN round-trip on cheap T+ ticket. He is totally computer uninformed, so he asked the checkin agent: "I'm so tired, do anything to put me in J, here's my Credit Card". The cost was about 700 CAD each way, he claims. Also he had problems with this in BCN, they told him to go to the LH ticket desks and do it there. But eventually they figured everything out.
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Old Sep 28, 2012, 11:55 pm
  #877  
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Join Date: Jul 2012
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YYZ-SEA Sept 27
$349 declined

There was 6 empty J space but no op-up this time

At least I got the bulkhead so i wasnt too bummed
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Old Sep 29, 2012, 6:37 am
  #878  
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YYZ-LHR 9/25 996.00CAD+tax
LHR-YYZ 9/27 959.00GBP+tax

Both declined. Both ways on T+ fare.
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Old Sep 29, 2012, 9:40 am
  #879  
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: YYZ
Programs: AMEX AC CX UA AA DL
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Originally Posted by yqtyyz
The last few posts seem to indicate the fee + taxes. Here's my YYZ-HKG LMU:

...

Total (per passenger) - 899.00 CAD
Total - 899.00 CAD

There wasn't any HST charged to my card, so perhaps it's really $899-13%?
Very good price considering its 1299 for YYZ-NRT. There is no HST/GST on inter-continental fare. HST/GST charged only on the $25 airport improvement fee.
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Old Sep 29, 2012, 9:48 am
  #880  
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: YYZ
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Thanks for clarifying. I can't recall, but I believe an LMU was available for HKG-YYZ via YVR, but I wanted to experience 18 A/C or 18 J/K for future flying reference.


Originally Posted by beep88
Very good price considering its 1299 for YYZ-NRT. There is no HST/GST on inter-continental fare. HST/GST charged only on the $25 airport improvement fee.
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Old Oct 3, 2012, 11:11 am
  #881  
 
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Location: YYJ
Programs: AC - SE100K
Posts: 727
YVR-YYC, Tango Fare, $199 - Declined

I would consider it if a LMU gave status segments/miles. The whole "original fare option" thing irks me.
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Old Oct 4, 2012, 9:37 am
  #882  
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
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Posts: 7,285
Originally Posted by payam81
That's a sweet price.

AC 15 YYZ-HKG yesterday on AP tix.

$948 No HST.

Took it as it's good value for the ultra-longhaul.

On a side note, J was half full at best at door close. I wonder if some business pax have jumped ship and switched to CX and their new product.
interesting. i know that a collegue of mine who normally just hits 35K decided that since he will not make 50K, there is no point in him being loyal to AC for a flight to HKG in Dec...and sure enough, after i showed him some photos of CX's J...voila, he booked CX even though it was more than AC...
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Old Oct 4, 2012, 11:36 am
  #883  
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
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Originally Posted by mkjr
interesting. i know that a collegue of mine who normally just hits 35K decided that since he will not make 50K, there is no point in him being loyal to AC for a flight to HKG in Dec...
A lot of flyers are in the same situation and these flyers always buy discount Executive First fare. It is also a group that AC probably does not want to see going elsewhere. I can see why AC raised the bench mark to 50K to prune those on Tango Plus as well as the reduced 50% accrual ratio for Tango, but the mere 25% COS does not cut it. Many have stuck with AC because they made it to *G/E at 35K. When this is no longer true, there is less or no incentive to stick to AC. I have previously suggested here to give higher COS when flying premium fares on AC metal to soften the effect. AC seemed to disagree.
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Old Oct 4, 2012, 5:56 pm
  #884  
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Canada! eh?
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Posts: 386
YVR-YUL, Tango Plus, $495 - Declined
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Old Oct 4, 2012, 6:28 pm
  #885  
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: YUL
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Posts: 1,903
Originally Posted by schnitzer
YVR-YUL, Tango Plus, $495 - Declined
OuTRAGEOUS!

Last weekend on AA:

YUL-MIA $165 to C (a flight from heaven!)
MIA-YUL $ 135 to C (a very good flight)

And AA has 40" legroom on B737-500 in J/C, a hard wall divider (no nasty curtain), service with a smiles at all times on both flights, and even (cheap) sparkling wine. Have I found a new home?
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