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Old Apr 8, 2018, 10:40 pm
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Routes that do not have fuel surcharges (YQ) when operated by carriers that normally charge YQ:

1. USA-Germany-Other country. If only the Germany-other country segment is on LH it does not have YQ. E.g. DFW-FRA-BLR with TATL on UA and FRA-BLR on LH.
2. USA-Canada-Other country. The USA-Canada segment on AC does not have YQ if the Canada-Other country segment is operated by a carrier that does not charge YQ. E.g. DFW-YYZ-ADD.
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Old Oct 18, 2017, 8:09 am
  #2611  
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Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: YYZ
Programs: AP
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Aug 2018 Toronto - Jakarta / Bali - Toronto First Reward 430,000 AP

YYZ - LAX (J) AC
LAX - ICN (F) OZ
ICN - SIN (J) SQ
SIN - CGK (F) SQ
/
DPS - SIN (J) SQ
SIN - ICN (J) SQ
ICN - LAX (F) OZ
LAX - YYZ (J) AC

Korea Passenger Service Charge $21.40
Canada Domestic/International Air Travel Security Charge $25.91
Singapore Passenger Security Service Charge $5.40
Canada Harmonized Sales Tax $3.25
Singapore Passenger Service Charge $5.40
U.S Passenger Facility Charge $5.50
Carrier Surcharge $160.00
Total per passenger $226.86
Total passengers 2

$453.72
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Old Oct 18, 2017, 1:20 pm
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Originally Posted by FB_
Aug 2018 Toronto - Jakarta / Bali - Toronto First Reward 430,000 AP

YYZ - LAX (J) AC
LAX - ICN (F) OZ
ICN - SIN (J) SQ
SIN - CGK (F) SQ
/
DPS - SIN (J) SQ
SIN - ICN (J) SQ
ICN - LAX (F) OZ
LAX - YYZ (J) AC

Korea Passenger Service Charge $21.40
Canada Domestic/International Air Travel Security Charge $25.91
Singapore Passenger Security Service Charge $5.40
Canada Harmonized Sales Tax $3.25
Singapore Passenger Service Charge $5.40
U.S Passenger Facility Charge $5.50
Carrier Surcharge $160.00
Total per passenger $226.86
Total passengers 2

$453.72
Actually I noticed a difference in the amount I posted above and my Visa statment

Here was the original ticket and what was charged to my card $324.70 X 2
Code:
Aeroplan Flight Reward Fixed Mileage Flight Reward
Taxes, fees and charges per passenger
Air Travellers Security Charge (CA) - 25.91
Canada Harmonized Sales Tax (GST/HST #10009-2287 RT0001) (RC) - 3.25
Combined taxes, fees, charges and surcharges, see fare calculation below (XT) - 324.70

Additional Charge in Canadian dollars : 0.00
Total in Canadian dollars : 353.86
*Fare calculation:
 03AUG18YTO AC LAX R0.00OZ SEL R0.00SQ SIN R0.00SQ JKT
 R0.00/-DPS SQ X/SIN SQ SEL R0.00OZ LAX R0.00AC YTO R0.00
 NUC0.00 END ROE1.266760 XT5.40SG5.40OO21.40BP160.00YQ18.40D5
 25.00SQ13.60AY9.60XA17.00XY13.40YC30.00YR XF5.50LAX4.50
And here is the newest information after a schedule change and AP website states 226.86 x 2 as above.

Code:
Additional Charge in Canadian dollars : 0.00
Total in : No additional collection

*Fare calculation:
 03AUG18YTO AC LAX R0.00OZ SEL R0.00SQ SIN R0.00SQ JKT
 R0.00/-DPS SQ X/SIN SQ SEL R0.00OZ LAX R0.00AC YTO R0.00
 NUC0.00 END ROE1.266760 PD25.91CA3.25RC5.40SG5.40OO21.40BP
 160.00YQ18.40D525.00SQ13.60AY9.60XA17.00XY13.40YC30.00YR
 PDXF5.50LAX4.50
Any ideas why there is a difference and should I be calling for a refund

Thanks
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Old Oct 18, 2017, 5:23 pm
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Originally Posted by FB_
Actually I noticed a difference in the amount I posted above and my Visa statment

Here was the original ticket and what was charged to my card $324.70 X 2
Code:
Aeroplan Flight Reward Fixed Mileage Flight Reward
Taxes, fees and charges per passenger
Air Travellers Security Charge (CA) - 25.91
Canada Harmonized Sales Tax (GST/HST #10009-2287 RT0001) (RC) - 3.25
Combined taxes, fees, charges and surcharges, see fare calculation below (XT) - 324.70

Additional Charge in Canadian dollars : 0.00
Total in Canadian dollars : 353.86
*Fare calculation:
 03AUG18YTO AC LAX R0.00OZ SEL R0.00SQ SIN R0.00SQ JKT
 R0.00/-DPS SQ X/SIN SQ SEL R0.00OZ LAX R0.00AC YTO R0.00
 NUC0.00 END ROE1.266760 XT5.40SG5.40OO21.40BP160.00YQ18.40D5
 25.00SQ13.60AY9.60XA17.00XY13.40YC30.00YR XF5.50LAX4.50
The top misses a bunch of stuff that's in the two piece below:

D5: 18.4
SQ: 25.00
AY: 13.60
XA: 9.60
XY: 17.00
YC: 13.40
YR: 30.00


These are in the "fare calculation."

And here is the newest information after a schedule change and AP website states 226.86 x 2 as above.

Code:
Additional Charge in Canadian dollars : 0.00
Total in : No additional collection

*Fare calculation:
 03AUG18YTO AC LAX R0.00OZ SEL R0.00SQ SIN R0.00SQ JKT
 R0.00/-DPS SQ X/SIN SQ SEL R0.00OZ LAX R0.00AC YTO R0.00
 NUC0.00 END ROE1.266760 PD25.91CA3.25RC5.40SG5.40OO21.40BP
 160.00YQ18.40D525.00SQ13.60AY9.60XA17.00XY13.40YC30.00YR
 PDXF5.50LAX4.50
Which is the same as above. All these charges are included. XT should be 324.70
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Old Oct 19, 2017, 8:17 am
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Originally Posted by Stranger
The top misses a bunch of stuff that's in the two piece below:

D5: 18.4
SQ: 25.00
AY: 13.60
XA: 9.60
XY: 17.00
YC: 13.40
YR: 30.00


These are in the "fare calculation."



Which is the same as above. All these charges are included. XT should be 324.70
Thanks, so basically AP website is not showing me the complete fees. What you have pointed out makes sense. I didn't think a schedule change would drop my fees by that much. Although I have heard connection times at some airports can change some of your fees.
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Old Oct 19, 2017, 8:53 am
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Originally Posted by FB_
Thanks, so basically AP website is not showing me the complete fees. What you have pointed out makes sense. I didn't think a schedule change would drop my fees by that much. Although I have heard connection times at some airports can change some of your fees.
Even if my calculation is correct, if they showed you a different figure when you bought the ticket, i.e. if they charged you more than you agreed with, you should have a case.

Except, with Aeroplan, good luck. Might entail taking them to court... And who knows what they could do to your account subsequently.

Once I got a reward or more likely I made changes to a reward over the phone. Somehow they did not charge me something. Next time I got a reward the missing charge appeared and I could not get the reward without paying it. Which I suspect is also quite illegal.
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Old Oct 22, 2017, 4:45 am
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Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: SEA
Posts: 36
YXE > YVR- AC
YVR > TPE- AC

$ 91. 91

It's a short n' sweet flight- 18h & 55m from Toon town. Nice sweet spot with the 'surcharges.' Not the greatest deal, but for a simple one-way earn n' burn not bad, considering everything else.
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Old Oct 22, 2017, 4:38 pm
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Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Alberta, Canada
Programs: Aeroplan
Posts: 1,013
AKL - WLG NZ Y
WLG - SIN SQ J
SIN - MNL SQ J

2 people, $259, 135000 miles
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Old Oct 23, 2017, 7:02 am
  #2618  
 
Join Date: Jan 2015
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Post this in the wrong thread originally:

YYZ-BOS AC J E75
BOS-IST TK J A333
IST-ATH TK J B773- destination

ATH-IST TK J A333
IST-AMS TK J A332- stop

AMS-VIE OS J A320
VIE-VCE OS J Q400 - stop

VCE-ZRH LX J CS3
ZRH-YUL LX J A333
YUL-YYZ AC J A333

115,000 miles per person. $284.86 in taxes and fees plus phone fee per person. I believe this would be reduced by about $50 if I could cut the BOS connection.
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Old Oct 23, 2017, 10:36 am
  #2619  
 
Join Date: May 2006
Programs: AC 75K
Posts: 259
Two one ways to Europe

Outbound

YXE-YUL AC J
YUL-ZRH LX J
ZRH-LHR LX J

55,000 points and $74.95 in taxes and fees. (Gotta love LX)

Inbound

DUB-YYZ AC J (Mainline)
YYZ-YXE AC J

55,000 points and $237.62 in taxes and fees

Europe return in J for approximately $310 in taxes and fees is a good outcome in my book

Sure saves $$$ by not departing from LHR and avoid UK Passenger Surcharges (Almost $350).

YXEG
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Old Oct 28, 2017, 6:20 pm
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Quick question - is the phone booking fee $30 per pax or per PNR? I got charged 2x30 for 2 pax on one ticket and was wondering if that was correct.
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Old Oct 28, 2017, 6:32 pm
  #2621  
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Originally Posted by mabramovich
Quick question - is the phone booking fee $30 per pax or per PNR? I got charged 2x30 for 2 pax on one ticket and was wondering if that was correct.
Per person
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Old Nov 4, 2017, 4:38 pm
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Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: トロント
Programs: IHG Gold
Posts: 4,820
For 2 in 2018. 155,000 miles per person. Booked on line so no extra phone in charge and taxes/fees under $100 per person.

YYZ-TPE-FUK BR J Stop (Hello Kitty for TPE-FUK)

FUK-SIN SQ J Stop

SIN-TPE BR J 23.5 hour layover

TPE-YYZ BR J

Taxes, fees, charges and carrier surcharges (total for both)

Canada Domestic/International Air Travel Security Charge - $51.82
Canada Harmonized Sales Tax - $6.50
Canada Domestic/International Airport Improvement Fee - $50.00
Japan Passenger Facilities Charge - $21.80
Singapore Aviation Levy - $11.60
Singapore Passenger Security Service Charge - $15.20
Singapore Passenger Service Charge - $37.60

Subtotal $194.52

If I were flying solo, I might have added some other flights but Mrs. Mapleg is not a fan of endless flying.
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Old Dec 14, 2017, 1:55 pm
  #2623  
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: YYZ
Posts: 1,666
Two one ways:

YYZ-HKG as follows:
YYZ-ORD (AC J)
ORD-HND (NH F)
HND-BKK (TG F)
BKK-HKG (TG F)

105,000 Aeroplan + $183.06 in scamcharges/taxes (only $62 YQ).

HKG-YYZ as follows:
HKG-HND (NH J)
HND-ORD (NH F)
ORD-YYZ (AC J)

105,000 Aeroplan + $103.50 in scamcharge/taxes ($1.30 YQ )

Would have liked to get it all on one ticket and get stopovers - but a) I didn't have time for a real meaningful stopover, and b) I had to use up a previously cancelled ticket set to expire in March.
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Old Dec 14, 2017, 4:43 pm
  #2624  
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Toronto (YYZ)
Posts: 6,279
Booked two oneways...

YYZ > IST TK J
IST > MRU TK J

Total: $61.76 + 75K AP points

MRU > JNB SA J
JNB > ZRH LX J
ZRH > YUL LX J
YUL > YTZ AC Y

Total: $109.90 (No YQ charged just all taxes) + $30 booking fee + 75K AP points
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Old Dec 14, 2017, 11:46 pm
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Join Date: Oct 2014
Posts: 71
Booked 3 one ways

LGA > YYJ in March

Total 37350 AP points $35.16 in fees
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