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Routes that do not have fuel surcharges (YQ) when operated by carriers that normally charge YQ:

1. USA-Germany-Other country. If only the Germany-other country segment is on LH it does not have YQ. E.g. DFW-FRA-BLR with TATL on UA and FRA-BLR on LH.
2. USA-Canada-Other country. The USA-Canada segment on AC does not have YQ if the Canada-Other country segment is operated by a carrier that does not charge YQ. E.g. DFW-YYZ-ADD.

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Nov 7, 2016, 2:54 pm

#2491

CZAMFlyer

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 24left

Exactly. Not speaking for The Cow, but I really enjoy my RTWs where I circle the planet, flying different airlines in different classes and sometimes lounge-hopping. Sometimes, i do a day at each stop. Not everyone uses their miles to fly TO a destination.

And then there's me, who plans RTWs with stops in exotic locations that - if they don't last at least three weeks apiece - are considered almost wasted.

Nov 7, 2016, 3:08 pm

#2492

24left

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Quote:

Originally Posted by CZAMFlyer

And then there's me, who plans RTWs with stops in exotic locations that - if they don't last at least three weeks apiece - are considered almost wasted.

I envy you that you CAN plan stops in exotic places

Still, one of the best moments of one of my RTWs earlier this year was when you and I were exchanging emails while I was on LH F on the 380 FRA-SIN and you replied:

"You've just crossed over the border into Afghanistan"
and then later you wrote
"If you can stay awake another 90 minutes, Mt. Everest will be outside your window"

AWESOME stuff. For me.

Nov 7, 2016, 3:12 pm

#2493

canadiancow

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Quote:

Originally Posted by CZAMFlyer

And then there's me, who plans RTWs with stops in exotic locations that - if they don't last at least three weeks apiece - are considered almost wasted.

A 3 week vacation would be difficult for me to take.

A miniRTW with three of those stops would be virtually impossible.

And to be honest, I don't want to spend 3 weeks in a new location. I prefer a few days, and then if I want to come back, I can. I want to spend more time in various cities that I've previously spent a couple days in, but there are also some cities I was glad to be done with at the end of my 48 hours

Nov 7, 2016, 3:15 pm

#2494

rankourabu

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Join Date: Jan 2002

Location: Canada

Programs: UA*1K MM SK EBG LATAM BL

Posts: 23,304

Quote:

Originally Posted by CZAMFlyer

And then there's me, who plans RTWs with stops in exotic locations that - if they don't last at least three weeks apiece - are considered almost wasted.

Thats what I like my min-rtws too. Go to places that otherwise would be expensive to get to, make it a 6-8 week trip.

For that, 150k in J with 3 stops on points that cost zero to acquire - Aeroplan cannot be beat, even with scamcharges.

There are no producs left in Star Alliance that I havent flown that I would want to fly just for the sake of it.

Nov 7, 2016, 3:39 pm

#2495

CZAMFlyer

Join Date: Dec 2014

Location: YVR

Programs: Bottom feeder Star Gold

Posts: 2,652

Quote:

Originally Posted by 24left

I envy you that you CAN plan stops in exotic places

Quote:

Originally Posted by canadiancow

A 3 week vacation would be difficult for me to take.

I hear both of you. I have (finally) succeeded in adjusting my career to afford me sufficient time and money - at the same time!!! - that permits extended getaways.

Quote:

Originally Posted by 24left

Still, one of the best moments of one of my RTWs earlier this year was when you and I were exchanging emails while I was on LH F on the 380 FRA-SIN and you replied:

"You've just crossed over the border into Afghanistan"
and then later you wrote
"If you can stay awake another 90 minutes, Mt. Everest will be outside your window"

AWESOME stuff. For me.

Yes, I too should probably sleep a bit more on extended flights, but can't resist peeking outside whenever overflying Greenland, traversing the Alps or skimming down the Potomac. Aisle seats: you can have 'em!

Quote:

Originally Posted by canadiancow

And to be honest, I don't want to spend 3 weeks in a new location. I prefer a few days, and then if I want to come back, I can. I want to spend more time in various cities that I've previously spent a couple days in, but there are also some cities I was glad to be done with at the end of my 48 hours

That's a fair comment. I was pretty happy to escape Bangkok after two days. I'm a country rube, and find that rural areas offer as much or more to me than large urban centres.

But...following my time in whichever location I've visited, it is nice to indulge in the comfort of a proper first class lounge in preparation for the long journey home.

Nov 7, 2016, 6:41 pm

#2496

quantumofforce

Join Date: May 2016

Posts: 2,494

Quote:

Originally Posted by canadiancow

I don't have the ticket yet, but...

Code:

J UA  261 SFO-LAX Nov24 0600 - Nov24 0730
F OZ  201 LAX-ICN Nov24 1100 - Nov25 1730
J SQ  607 ICN-SIN Nov26 0900 - Nov26 1450
J SQ  978 SIN-BKK Nov26 1845 - Nov26 2010
F TG  924 BKK-MUC Nov28 0050 - Nov28 0645
J LH 2474 MUC-LHR Nov28 1155 - Nov28 1300
J AC  855 LHR-YVR Nov28 1430 - Nov28 1605
J AC  568 YVR-SFO Nov28 1925 - Nov28 2151

$326.80 plus $30 booking fee

I intend to swap the AC J for some LH F goodness in a week or two, which will obviously cause the taxes/fees to skyrocket.

So can we grab a late lunch/early dinner on the 26th?

Nov 7, 2016, 8:29 pm

#2497

canadiancow

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Quote:

Originally Posted by quantumofforce

So can we grab a late lunch/early dinner on the 26th?

In SIN? Sure. Although I wasn't planning on clearing immigration, but I guess I have enough time.

Nov 7, 2016, 9:32 pm

#2498

quantumofforce

Join Date: May 2016

Posts: 2,494

Quote:

Originally Posted by canadiancow

In SIN? Sure. Although I wasn't planning on clearing immigration, but I guess I have enough time.

Closer to the date let me know your preference and we can organise a micro do.

Nov 13, 2016, 5:19 pm

#2499

canadiancow

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There has been a change to my schedule. LH F opened up

Code:

J UA 5623 SFO-LAX Nov23 2145 - Nov23 2307
F OZ  201 LAX-ICN Nov24 1100 - Nov25 1730
J SQ  607 ICN-SIN Nov26 0900 - Nov26 1450
J SQ  978 SIN-BKK Nov26 1845 - Nov26 2010
F TG  924 BKK-MUC Nov28 0050 - Nov28 0645
F LH  452 MUC-LAX Nov28 1200 - Nov28 1525
J UA 1029 LAX-SFO Nov28 2146 - Nov28 2313

Taxes/fees are now $545.10

23NOV16SFO UA LAX R0.00OZ SEL R0.00SQ X/SIN SQ BKK R0.00TG
X/MUC LH LAX R0.00UA SFO R0.00CAD0.00 END ROE1.00 XT262.40YQ
0.20US7.50AY4.60TS0.40RA PD2.60E71.20G82.90SG2.90OO11.60BP
108.30YQ47.60US7.50AY5.30XA9.40XY7.40YC9.40DE22.20 TS25.70RA

Nov 22, 2016, 2:09 pm

#2500

Kraafish

Join Date: Sep 2016

Location: Moscow

Programs: Marriott Titanium; Finnair Platinum

Posts: 133

MSP-ORD UA Y
ORD-IST TK J
IST-SIN SQ J
SIN-BKK SQ J

U.S. Passenger Safety Fee - $7.50
Thailand Advance Passenger Processing User Charge - $1.30 + $0.60
Singapore Passenger Security Service Charge - $2.80
Singapore Passenger Service Charge - $2.80
Turkey International Airport Service Charge - $7.20
Subtotal $22.20

Booking Fee $30.00

Last edited by Kraafish; Nov 23, 2016 at 6:13 am Reason: SG --> SQ

Nov 22, 2016, 9:06 pm

#2501

jerryhung

Join Date: Mar 2007

Posts: 4,784

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kraafish

IST-SIN SG J
SIN-BKK SG J

You meant SQ (Singapore airlines) right?

since SG is IATA code for Spicejet in India ...

but very nice booking with such low fee
That's what FREE flight should be

Nov 23, 2016, 6:12 am

#2502

Kraafish

Join Date: Sep 2016

Location: Moscow

Programs: Marriott Titanium; Finnair Platinum

Posts: 133

Quote:

Originally Posted by jerryhung

You meant SQ (Singapore airlines) right?

since SG is IATA code for Spicejet in India ...

but very nice booking with such low fee
That's what FREE flight should be

No I redeem for Spice Jet.....

thanks for pointing that out

Dec 14, 2016, 2:30 pm

#2503

mlabqi

Join Date: Dec 2014

Posts: 5

New Year booking
No interest in stopovers. My main concern was to get the cheapest possible option

YYZ-YUL AC Eco
YUL-ZUR LX Bus
ZUR-DEL LX Bus

DEL-DMM AI Bus
DMM-IST TK Bus
IST-ORD TK Bus
ORD-YYZ UA Eco

Taxes, fees, charges and carrier surcharges
Total amount paid under the invoice issued to you by the air carrier.
Miles Amount CAD $
U.S. Passenger Safety Fee - $7.40
Canada Domestic/International Air Travel Security Charge - $25.91
Swiss Passenger Security and Noise Charge - $20.70
Saudi Arabia Security Charges - $5.20
India User Development Fee - $61.70
Saudi Arabia Airport Building Charge - $61.20
Canada Harmonized Sales Tax - $3.25
Canada Domestic/International Airport Improvement Fee - $25.00
Turkey International Airport Service Charge - $7.00
India Domestic/International Passenger Service Fee - $4.90
U.S Agriculture Fee - $5.20
U.S Passenger Facility Charge - $5.90
U.S.A Immigration User Fee - $9.20
U.S. Customs User Fee - $7.30
Carrier Surcharge - $15.00
Subtotal $264.86

Plus $30 booking Fee

Dec 14, 2016, 2:35 pm

#2504

Admiral Ackbar

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Join Date: Feb 2002

Location: YUL

Programs: IHG Diamond Ambassador, Accor Platinum, AC50K

Posts: 2,926

Booked this last week and on last leg today

YUL-YYZ AC J
YYZ-TPE BR J
TPE-HKG BR J stay 2 nights
HKG-NRT NH J
NRT-ORD NH J
ORD-YUL AC Y of course! On standby for J (did not get it as plane was 'delayed' (sat on tarmac for an hour so I think they combined 2 empty-ish flights) and full. Yay!)

150k + $200.47 YQ

Last edited by Admiral Ackbar; Dec 15, 2016 at 7:25 pm

Dec 14, 2016, 2:48 pm

#2505

InstantStatus

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Location: YYY

Programs: AE

Posts: 42

I noticed that J award seats on transatlantic flights operated by Air Canada (especially ex-LHR) and Lufthansa have more availability compared to seats on other Star Alliance airlines (UA/SN/LX). Is it because people are consciously avoiding redeeming on those AC/LH flights which carry high/obnoxious scamcharges ?