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Old Apr 8, 2018, 10:40 pm
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Routes that do not have fuel surcharges (YQ) when operated by carriers that normally charge YQ:

1. USA-Germany-Other country. If only the Germany-other country segment is on LH it does not have YQ. E.g. DFW-FRA-BLR with TATL on UA and FRA-BLR on LH.
2. USA-Canada-Other country. The USA-Canada segment on AC does not have YQ if the Canada-Other country segment is operated by a carrier that does not charge YQ. E.g. DFW-YYZ-ADD.
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Old Nov 10, 2013, 2:05 pm
  #1306  
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: ZRH, CGN
Programs: AA Gold, *G
Posts: 257
YYZ-ZRH AC Y
ZRH-PVG LX J
PVG-TPE CA J
TPE-HKG BR J
HKG-PEK CA J
PEK-IAH CA J
IAH-BOS UA J
BOS-YYZ AC J

329.66 in taxes/fees + 33.90 telephone booking charge.
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Old Nov 10, 2013, 3:47 pm
  #1307  
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: YUL
Programs: IHG Plat, JGC, Asiana Diamond, National EE
Posts: 145
YYZ-TPE (BR J, royal laurel)
TPE-HKG (BR J, premium laurel)
HKG-ICN (OZ J)
ICN-NRT (OZ J)
NRT-DEN (UA J, 787)
DEN-YYZ (AC J)

tax for 2 person:
658.12
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Old Nov 17, 2013, 8:00 am
  #1308  
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: YYZ
Posts: 1,666
Originally Posted by tng11
Changed to the following:
YYZ-ORD UA J
ORD-NRT NH F
NRT-ICN OZ F
ICN-KIX OZ J
KIX-BKK TG F
BKK-SIN SQ J
SIN-CGK SQ F
CGK-SIN SQ F
SIN-HKG SQ J
HKG-TPE BR J
TPE-NRT BR J
NRT-FRA NH F
FRA-YYZ AC J

Aeroplan collected another $560.60 from me!

The total is $1,350.16! YQ has shot up from $580.20 to $1,101.25!

I'm baffled why the taxes went up so much as I basically converted my initial NH NRT-BKK flight into ICN-BKK-KIX (YQ on the NH direct flight was $141, and the total YQ on those 3 flights is $177.90), then lost NH NRT-HKG and changed it into YQ-free BR. Changing the LH Y to AC J flight also should have increased YQ by $70 or so.

The only reason I can gather is that on the old ticket, the YQ figure of $580.20 was "too low" considering each of the long haul NH segments are around $280 in YQ alone.
So because I saw some seats open up on OZ F in the new Suite from ICN-JFK, I made another change - and I REALLY, REALLY wanted the NH F Square product for my westbound flight TPAC.

My itinerary is now:

JFK-NRT NH F
NRT-ICN OZ F
ICN-KIX OZ J
KIX-BKK TG F
BKK-SIN SQ J
SIN-CGK SQ F
CGK-SIN SQ F
SIN-HKG SQ J
HKG-TPE BR J
TPE-NRT BR J
NRT-ICN OZ F
ICN-JFK OZ F

I'm told I'm getting back close to $800 with this itinerary, since I don't have to pay the ridiculous AC scamcharge across the Atlantic and the FRA airport taxes. I'm just going to add a cheap AA flight from YYZ-JFK-YYZ for 9,000 Avios.
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Old Nov 17, 2013, 3:10 pm
  #1309  
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Programs: SPG
Posts: 72
YEG - LHR AC J
LHR - IST TK J (STOP)
IST - ICN OZ J
ICN - HAN OZ J (POT)
HAN - TPE BR J
TPE - HKG BR J (STOP)
HKG - YVR AC J
YVR - YEG AC J

~ $660 per person all in.
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Old Nov 17, 2013, 4:10 pm
  #1310  
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: YYZ
Programs: MR Plat
Posts: 383
YYZ-TPE BR J
TPE-HKG BR J
HKG-PEK CA Y
PEK-HND NH J
NRT-YVR AC J
YVR-YYZ AC J

$248.46 taxes/charges + $33.90 booking fee per person
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Old Nov 17, 2013, 4:11 pm
  #1311  
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: YVR
Posts: 1,465
Originally Posted by FreeTravel
YEG - LHR AC J
LHR - IST TK J (STOP)
IST - ICN OZ J
ICN - HAN OZ J (POT)
HAN - TPE BR J
TPE - HKG BR J (STOP)
HKG - YVR AC J
YVR - YEG AC J

~ $660 per person all in.
Wow, you indeed got charged YEG-HAN-YEG YQ, which is to your advantage in this case. YEG-LHR alone is $458, if charged separately.
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Old Nov 17, 2013, 7:35 pm
  #1312  
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: YEG
Posts: 3,717
Originally Posted by Globex
YYZ-TPE BR J
TPE-HKG BR J
HKG-PEK CA Y
PEK-HND NH J
NRT-YVR AC J
YVR-YYZ AC J

$248.46 taxes/charges + $33.90 booking fee per person
How did you not get charged yq?
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Old Nov 17, 2013, 8:27 pm
  #1313  
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: West
Posts: 3,357
YYC-YVR-PEK AC/CA overnight
PEK-SIN SQ stop
SIN-BKK SQ stop
BKK-ZRH-WAW LX/LX stop
WAW-ORD LO overnite
ORD-YYC UA

All J except YYC-YVR

Total fees $280.51 pp + booking change fees


Fare Breakdown
Airfare: 0.00 CAD
China Airport Fee: 15.30
September 11th Security Fee: 2.70
U.S. APHIS User Fee: 5.40
U.S. Immigration User Fee: 7.50
U.S. Customs User Fee: 5.90
U.S. Passenger Facility Charge: 4.80
International Surcharge: 64.40
International Surcharge (YR): 15.00
Canada Airport Improvement Fee: 30.00
Canada Goods and Services Tax: 1.50
Canadian Security Charge: 25.91
Singapore Passenger Service Charge: 16.90
Singapore Aviation Levy: 5.20
Singapore Passenger Security Service Charge: 6.80
Switzerland Airport Passenger/Security Charge: 28.00
Thailand Passenger Service Charge: 23.80
Poland Airport Tax: 21.30
Poland Passenger Service Charge: 0.10

The taxes, fees, and surcharges paid total: 280.51 CAD
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Old Nov 17, 2013, 8:47 pm
  #1314  
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: YYZ
Programs: MR Plat
Posts: 383
Originally Posted by hearna
How did you not get charged yq?
There was about $131 worth, which was about 300 less than I expected or was estimating. So seems like I lucked out!
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Old Nov 18, 2013, 8:05 am
  #1315  
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Originally Posted by 1Newflyer
WAW-ORD LO overnite

International Surcharge: 64.40
wow, so the LO YQ TATL is only like $64. Sweet.
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Old Nov 18, 2013, 8:24 am
  #1316  
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: YYZ
Programs: MR Plat
Posts: 383
Originally Posted by Globex
YYZ-TPE BR J
TPE-HKG BR J (STOP)
HKG-PEK CA Y (STOP)
PEK-HND NH J (STOP)
NRT-YVR AC J
YVR-YYZ AC J

$248.46 taxes/charges + $33.90 booking fee per person
Originally Posted by Globex
There was about $131 worth, which was about 300 less than I expected or was estimating. So seems like I lucked out!
Final Break-down is:

Canada Domestic/International Air Travel Security Charge$25.91
China Airport Fee $15.30
Hong Kong Air Passenger Departure Tax$16.70
Narita Passenger Security Service Charge (intl)$5.50
Canada Harmonized Sales Tax$3.25
Canada Domestic/International Airport Improvement Fee$25.00
Japan Passenger Facilities Charge$22.50
Fuel Surcharge$130.10
Total per passenger$244.26

Then some $4 additional charge....
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Old Nov 18, 2013, 8:36 am
  #1317  
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: YVR to SEA
Posts: 2,535
Destination is Hong Kong, which has YQ regulated by the government.

Only taking Air Canada in one direction so YQ charged on the return only

Last edited by crimsona; Nov 18, 2013 at 2:26 pm
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Old Nov 18, 2013, 11:07 am
  #1318  
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: West
Posts: 3,357
Originally Posted by rankourabu
wow, so the LO YQ TATL is only like $64. Sweet.
and $15 is for AC to YVR I guess, but why is it called an international surcharge?
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Old Nov 18, 2013, 1:10 pm
  #1319  
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Programs: Aeroplan Diamond, SPG Plat, Hilton Gold, Marriott
Posts: 1,839
Originally Posted by 1Newflyer
YYC-YVR-PEK AC/CA overnight
PEK-SIN SQ stop
SIN-BKK SQ stop
BKK-ZRH-WAW LX/LX stop
WAW-ORD LO overnite
ORD-YYC UA

All J except YYC-YVR

Total fees $280.51 pp + booking change fees


Fare Breakdown
Airfare: 0.00 CAD
China Airport Fee: 15.30
September 11th Security Fee: 2.70
U.S. APHIS User Fee: 5.40
U.S. Immigration User Fee: 7.50
U.S. Customs User Fee: 5.90
U.S. Passenger Facility Charge: 4.80
International Surcharge: 64.40
International Surcharge (YR): 15.00
Canada Airport Improvement Fee: 30.00
Canada Goods and Services Tax: 1.50
Canadian Security Charge: 25.91
Singapore Passenger Service Charge: 16.90
Singapore Aviation Levy: 5.20
Singapore Passenger Security Service Charge: 6.80
Switzerland Airport Passenger/Security Charge: 28.00
Thailand Passenger Service Charge: 23.80
Poland Airport Tax: 21.30
Poland Passenger Service Charge: 0.10

The taxes, fees, and surcharges paid total: 280.51 CAD
This is super low! I will try your route next year when I plan my trip to Thailand.
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Old Nov 18, 2013, 2:06 pm
  #1320  
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Toronto
Programs: Aeroplan E50k, MM
Posts: 224
YYZ-LHR return in Business class Total charges are $1204.06. Amazing how the fuel surcharge keeps going up while the Jet Fuel price is down this year.
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