Apr 8, 2018, 10:40 pm
Last edit by: UA Fan
Routes that do not have fuel surcharges (YQ) when operated by carriers that normally charge YQ:
1. USA-Germany-Other country. If only the Germany-other country segment is on LH it does not have YQ. E.g. DFW-FRA-BLR with TATL on UA and FRA-BLR on LH.
2. USA-Canada-Other country. The USA-Canada segment on AC does not have YQ if the Canada-Other country segment is operated by a carrier that does not charge YQ. E.g. DFW-YYZ-ADD.
1. USA-Germany-Other country. If only the Germany-other country segment is on LH it does not have YQ. E.g. DFW-FRA-BLR with TATL on UA and FRA-BLR on LH.
2. USA-Canada-Other country. The USA-Canada segment on AC does not have YQ if the Canada-Other country segment is operated by a carrier that does not charge YQ. E.g. DFW-YYZ-ADD.
Please list your AP Taxes and SURCHARGES on AP reward tickets
Apr 3, 2009, 1:03 pm
#46
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: NAN, YVR
Programs: AC *SE, Westjet PLAT, UA Prem, Alaska MVP, Marriott Ambassador, Hyatt Globalist
Posts: 311
YLW-NAN (Fiji)
I paid $31.50 AP service fee plus $211.90 in taxes for a grand total of $243.40
Routing is: YLW(AC)-YVR(UA)-LAX(SQ)-SIN(SQ)-AKL(NZ)-NAN(NZ)-AKL(SQ)-SIN(SQ)-LAX(AC)-YVR(AC)-YLW
NAN is my point of turnaround.... and I have a stop-over in SIN and YVR.
All flights are in BIZ Class and cost 100,000 miles..
Routing is: YLW(AC)-YVR(UA)-LAX(SQ)-SIN(SQ)-AKL(NZ)-NAN(NZ)-AKL(SQ)-SIN(SQ)-LAX(AC)-YVR(AC)-YLW
NAN is my point of turnaround.... and I have a stop-over in SIN and YVR.
All flights are in BIZ Class and cost 100,000 miles..
Apr 3, 2009, 4:32 pm
#47
Join Date: Apr 2009
Programs: TK*G, AP Prestige, BAEC, Alaska Air MP, SPG Gold, Marriott Gold HHonors GOLD VIP, Hyatt GOLD
Posts: 72
I am just new member of FlyerTalk but have been reading the forums quite a bit lately and I'm surprised how wonderful you FF are!! I mean the taxes you paid on these intl flights are amazing for reward flights!! I would hope to book an all J class intl flight to Australia or New Zealand someday, and by the sounds of it booking through the call centre and not using as much AC is the way. However, how far in advanced do you have to book these to get J seats?
Apr 3, 2009, 6:04 pm
#49
Join Date: Apr 2009
Programs: TK*G, AP Prestige, BAEC, Alaska Air MP, SPG Gold, Marriott Gold HHonors GOLD VIP, Hyatt GOLD
Posts: 72
YYC-SFO UA F/J
SFO-ICN OZ J
GMP-SHA OZ J
PVG-HKG FM J
HKG-BKK TG J
BKK-UTH TG J
BKK-VIE OS J
VIE-AMS OS J
AMS-FRA LH J
FRA-YYC LH J
Taxes and Fees - $98.62 plus $31.50 Call Centre Booking Fee. 100K miles X2
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YYC-SFO UA F/J
SFO-NRT NH F
NRT-ICN OZ F
ICN-HKG OZ F
HKG-BKK TG F
BKK-SIN LX F
SIN-MUC LH F
MUC-FRA LH J
FRA-YYC LH F
Taxes and Fees - $138.88 plus $31.50 Call Centre Booking Fee. 120K miles.
SFO-ICN OZ J
GMP-SHA OZ J
PVG-HKG FM J
HKG-BKK TG J
BKK-UTH TG J
BKK-VIE OS J
VIE-AMS OS J
AMS-FRA LH J
FRA-YYC LH J
Taxes and Fees - $98.62 plus $31.50 Call Centre Booking Fee. 100K miles X2
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YYC-SFO UA F/J
SFO-NRT NH F
NRT-ICN OZ F
ICN-HKG OZ F
HKG-BKK TG F
BKK-SIN LX F
SIN-MUC LH F
MUC-FRA LH J
FRA-YYC LH F
Taxes and Fees - $138.88 plus $31.50 Call Centre Booking Fee. 120K miles.
Apr 3, 2009, 6:10 pm
#50
Join Date: Oct 2005
Programs: ex-US Chairman UA 1K
Posts: 81
I just did 4 tickets in the last month, 1 with aeroplan, 1 with us, and 2 with united, here is how they broke down for taxes&fees
Aeroplan EWR-YYZ-NRT-BKK-NRT-JFK $181.79/$24.26 USD + 100,000 Miles
USAIR LAS-LAX-BKK-LAX-BKK $44.81/$90.00 USD +120,000 Miles ($90 fee = $50 for dm reward redemption, $40 for using calling center)
United LGA-ORD-PVG-SIN-BKK-PVG-ORD-LGA $65.09/$0 USD +125,000 Miles
United PVG-SIN-BKK-PVG $32.81/$0 USD +30,000 Miles
Mileage wise, Aeroplan is by far the cheapest, yet most expensive for taxes/fees.
Aeroplan EWR-YYZ-NRT-BKK-NRT-JFK $181.79/$24.26 USD + 100,000 Miles
USAIR LAS-LAX-BKK-LAX-BKK $44.81/$90.00 USD +120,000 Miles ($90 fee = $50 for dm reward redemption, $40 for using calling center)
United LGA-ORD-PVG-SIN-BKK-PVG-ORD-LGA $65.09/$0 USD +125,000 Miles
United PVG-SIN-BKK-PVG $32.81/$0 USD +30,000 Miles
Mileage wise, Aeroplan is by far the cheapest, yet most expensive for taxes/fees.
Last edited by stantonhog; Apr 3, 2009 at 8:20 pm Reason: seperated taxes and fees
Apr 3, 2009, 7:12 pm
#51
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 9
I am just new member of FlyerTalk but have been reading the forums quite a bit lately and I'm surprised how wonderful you FF are!! I mean the taxes you paid on these intl flights are amazing for reward flights!! I would hope to book an all J class intl flight to Australia or New Zealand someday, and by the sounds of it booking through the call centre and not using as much AC is the way. However, how far in advanced do you have to book these to get J seats?
The trick is to spend some planning time using the ANA search tool testing various routes and coming up with an itinerary before you start with the Aeroplan call centre.
Superstarry
Apr 3, 2009, 7:46 pm
#53
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: DFW
Programs: AA 1M
Posts: 31,474
I just did 4 tickets in the last month, 1 with aeroplan, 1 with us, and 2 with united, here is how they broke down for taxes&fees
Aeroplan EWR-YYZ-NRT-BKK-NRT-JFK $206.05 USD + 100,000 Miles
USAIR LAS-LAX-BKK-LAX-BKK $134.81 USD +120,000 Miles
United LGA-ORD-PVG-SIN-BKK-PVG-ORD-LGA $65.09 USD +125,000 Miles
United PVG-SIN-BKK-PVG $32.81 USD +30,000 Miles
Mileage wise, Aeroplan is by far the cheapest, yet most expensive for taxes/fees.
Aeroplan EWR-YYZ-NRT-BKK-NRT-JFK $206.05 USD + 100,000 Miles
USAIR LAS-LAX-BKK-LAX-BKK $134.81 USD +120,000 Miles
United LGA-ORD-PVG-SIN-BKK-PVG-ORD-LGA $65.09 USD +125,000 Miles
United PVG-SIN-BKK-PVG $32.81 USD +30,000 Miles
Mileage wise, Aeroplan is by far the cheapest, yet most expensive for taxes/fees.
I thought the taxes and fees would be the same regardless of who ticketed the award, for US I can understand the extra $50 for booking fee, but why is there such a big difference?
Apr 3, 2009, 7:52 pm
#54
Original Member
Join Date: May 1998
Location: Canada
Programs: AC SE 2MM, HH Dd, SPG; IC Pl/A; AA; DL
Posts: 14,321
Differences in surcharges for different airlines
Differences in country fees, e.g. USA has pricey fees
etc etc.
The only way is to compare apples to apples, ie two different programs flying exactly same flights to see who is ripping us off more . . .
What this shows is that one needs to shop around even on reward tickets to get best price, seating, airlines, schedule etc. combination that fits what you need.
Differences in country fees, e.g. USA has pricey fees
etc etc.
The only way is to compare apples to apples, ie two different programs flying exactly same flights to see who is ripping us off more . . .
What this shows is that one needs to shop around even on reward tickets to get best price, seating, airlines, schedule etc. combination that fits what you need.
Apr 3, 2009, 8:20 pm
#56
Join Date: Oct 2005
Programs: ex-US Chairman UA 1K
Posts: 81
I just edited to break out the fees from taxes, for US i got charged $90, 50 for the DM award redemption, and $40 for using the calling center
Apr 3, 2009, 9:36 pm
#57
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Calgary
Programs: A Few
Posts: 2,339
AE now allows 2 stopovers plus your point of turnaround on intercontinental awards. They also allow travel over either or both oceans on many Asian destinations. This allows you to construct some fantastic value award redemptions using AE miles.
Apr 25, 2009, 9:16 pm
#58
Original Member
Join Date: May 1998
Location: Canada
Programs: AC SE 2MM, HH Dd, SPG; IC Pl/A; AA; DL
Posts: 14,321
Lowest charges of the day for this agent
Lowest price of the day for agent I talked to. $6
Day 1 CA1281 Beijing (PEK) HAILAR (HLD) Economy Confirmed
Day 2 CA1132 HAILAR (HLD) Beijing (PEK) Economy Confirmed
Day 3 CA101 Beijing (PEK) Hong Kong (HKG) Economy Confirmed
(no stopovers allowed but this gave me what I wanted since no other flights valid)
20000 points--would have taken business for 30K but only available on 1 leg
Total taxes/fees $6.00 CAD
(no booking fee--taxes for Air China have to be calculated manually with an agent)
Reminds me of the good old days when reward travel was essentially free!^
Total cost on discount tickets would have been about $500 CAD so an OK but not great use of points. I have a ton so am trying to liquidate a few . . .
Day 1 CA1281 Beijing (PEK) HAILAR (HLD) Economy Confirmed
Day 2 CA1132 HAILAR (HLD) Beijing (PEK) Economy Confirmed
Day 3 CA101 Beijing (PEK) Hong Kong (HKG) Economy Confirmed
(no stopovers allowed but this gave me what I wanted since no other flights valid)
20000 points--would have taken business for 30K but only available on 1 leg
Total taxes/fees $6.00 CAD
(no booking fee--taxes for Air China have to be calculated manually with an agent)
Reminds me of the good old days when reward travel was essentially free!^
Total cost on discount tickets would have been about $500 CAD so an OK but not great use of points. I have a ton so am trying to liquidate a few . . .