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Routes that do not have fuel surcharges (YQ) when operated by carriers that normally charge YQ:
1. USA-Germany-Other country. If only the Germany-other country segment is on LH it does not have YQ. E.g. DFW-FRA-BLR with TATL on UA and FRA-BLR on LH.
2. USA-Canada-Other country. The USA-Canada segment on AC does not have YQ if the Canada-Other country segment is operated by a carrier that does not charge YQ. E.g. DFW-YYZ-ADD.
1. USA-Germany-Other country. If only the Germany-other country segment is on LH it does not have YQ. E.g. DFW-FRA-BLR with TATL on UA and FRA-BLR on LH.
2. USA-Canada-Other country. The USA-Canada segment on AC does not have YQ if the Canada-Other country segment is operated by a carrier that does not charge YQ. E.g. DFW-YYZ-ADD.
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#16
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 55
Thanks for the info!
But it's still worth the service fee we pay...
#17
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The more *A partners in the booking (with no AC segments) the better the chance of having no fuel surcharge on your award ticket.
#20
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YOW/SYD
Date of issue 28-Feb 2009
Aeroplan Flight Reward ClassicFlight (2 x 130K for J)
Taxes, surcharges and airline fees per passenger (age of 2 and over)
Canada Security Charge (CA) 17.00
Australia Passenger Service Charge (WY) 39.20
Combined taxes, fees, charges and surcharges *for ClassicFlight, see fare calculation below (XT) 373.85
*Fare calculation:
YOW AC X/YVR AC SYD M0.00AC X/YVR AC YOW M0.00NUC0.00
END ROE1.26426 XT320.00YQ15.00SQ0.75XG38.10AU
Aeroplan Flight Reward ClassicFlight (2 x 130K for J)
Taxes, surcharges and airline fees per passenger (age of 2 and over)
Canada Security Charge (CA) 17.00
Australia Passenger Service Charge (WY) 39.20
Combined taxes, fees, charges and surcharges *for ClassicFlight, see fare calculation below (XT) 373.85
*Fare calculation:
YOW AC X/YVR AC SYD M0.00AC X/YVR AC YOW M0.00NUC0.00
END ROE1.26426 XT320.00YQ15.00SQ0.75XG38.10AU
#21
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Try to avoid AC even on transborder routes..Use star carriers from there CAN/US gateway cities to overseas destinations... Wow are there ever big differences in taxes and fees..Sometimes it is less expensive to buy a ticket on AC to your Star carriers gateway city rather than flying AC on the first and last leg of your reward ticket to the star carriers gateway city.
#22
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Try to avoid AC even on transborder routes..Use star carriers from there CAN/US gateway cities to overseas destinations... Wow are there ever big differences in taxes and fees..Sometimes it is less expensive to buy a ticket on AC to your Star carriers gateway city rather than flying AC on the first and last leg of your reward ticket to the star carriers gateway city.
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#26
Join Date: Jun 2007
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Now if that means I need to go via BTV then so be it.
I dont even know if these are valid or not.
YUL / JFK / FRA / SGN STOP / SIN / SYD STOP / SIN / LAX/YUL
YUL / YYZ / FRA/ SGN STOP / SIN / SYD STOP / SIN / LAX / YUL
YUL /JFK / FRA/ HKG STOP / SIN / SYD STOP / SIN / LAX/YUL
YUL / YYZ/ FRA/ HKN STOP / SIN / SYD STOP / SIN / LAX / YUL
YUL /JFK / FRA/ PVG STOP / SIN / SYD STOP / SIN / LAX/YUL
YUL / YYZ/ FRA/ PVG STOP / SIN / SYD STOP / SIN / LAX / YUL
YUL / JFK / FRA / SGN STOP / SIN / SYD STOP / SIN / FRA / JFK / YUL
YUL / YYZ / FRA/ SGN STOP / SIN / SYD STOP / SIN / FRA / YYZ / YUL
YUL /JFK / FRA/ HKG STOP / SIN / SYD STOP / SIN / FRA / JFK / YUL
YUL / YYZ/ FRA/ HKN STOP / SIN / SYD STOP / SIN / FRA / YYZ / YUL
YUL /JFK / FRA/ PVG STOP / SIN / SYD STOP / SIN / FRA / JFK / YUL
YUL / YYZ/ FRA/ PVG STOP / SIN / SYD STOP / SIN / FRA / YYZ / YUL
I wish we had a thread for every possible solution to Australia
#27
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Im trying to do any of the following or any other combination that works without going AC to advoid the costs. (Biz)
Now if that means I need to go via BTV then so be it.
I dont even know if these are valid or not.
YUL / JFK / FRA / SGN STOP / SIN / SYD STOP / SIN / LAX/YUL
YUL / YYZ / FRA/ SGN STOP / SIN / SYD STOP / SIN / LAX / YUL
YUL /JFK / FRA/ HKG STOP / SIN / SYD STOP / SIN / LAX/YUL
YUL / YYZ/ FRA/ HKN STOP / SIN / SYD STOP / SIN / LAX / YUL
YUL /JFK / FRA/ PVG STOP / SIN / SYD STOP / SIN / LAX/YUL
YUL / YYZ/ FRA/ PVG STOP / SIN / SYD STOP / SIN / LAX / YUL
YUL / JFK / FRA / SGN STOP / SIN / SYD STOP / SIN / FRA / JFK / YUL
YUL / YYZ / FRA/ SGN STOP / SIN / SYD STOP / SIN / FRA / YYZ / YUL
YUL /JFK / FRA/ HKG STOP / SIN / SYD STOP / SIN / FRA / JFK / YUL
YUL / YYZ/ FRA/ HKN STOP / SIN / SYD STOP / SIN / FRA / YYZ / YUL
YUL /JFK / FRA/ PVG STOP / SIN / SYD STOP / SIN / FRA / JFK / YUL
YUL / YYZ/ FRA/ PVG STOP / SIN / SYD STOP / SIN / FRA / YYZ / YUL
I wish we had a thread for every possible solution to Australia
Now if that means I need to go via BTV then so be it.
I dont even know if these are valid or not.
YUL / JFK / FRA / SGN STOP / SIN / SYD STOP / SIN / LAX/YUL
YUL / YYZ / FRA/ SGN STOP / SIN / SYD STOP / SIN / LAX / YUL
YUL /JFK / FRA/ HKG STOP / SIN / SYD STOP / SIN / LAX/YUL
YUL / YYZ/ FRA/ HKN STOP / SIN / SYD STOP / SIN / LAX / YUL
YUL /JFK / FRA/ PVG STOP / SIN / SYD STOP / SIN / LAX/YUL
YUL / YYZ/ FRA/ PVG STOP / SIN / SYD STOP / SIN / LAX / YUL
YUL / JFK / FRA / SGN STOP / SIN / SYD STOP / SIN / FRA / JFK / YUL
YUL / YYZ / FRA/ SGN STOP / SIN / SYD STOP / SIN / FRA / YYZ / YUL
YUL /JFK / FRA/ HKG STOP / SIN / SYD STOP / SIN / FRA / JFK / YUL
YUL / YYZ/ FRA/ HKN STOP / SIN / SYD STOP / SIN / FRA / YYZ / YUL
YUL /JFK / FRA/ PVG STOP / SIN / SYD STOP / SIN / FRA / JFK / YUL
YUL / YYZ/ FRA/ PVG STOP / SIN / SYD STOP / SIN / FRA / YYZ / YUL
I wish we had a thread for every possible solution to Australia
Last edited by Raffles longhaul; Mar 3, 2009 at 1:30 pm
#30
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I would add the US AIR segments at the beginning of your itinerary and at the end if flying via JFK...One agent will tell you a certain itinerary is valid another agent will tell you its not valid.. Some AP agents do not even know whats valid.. I would try the following : YUL-PHL-LGA/JFK-FRA-SIN-SYD-SIN-FRA-JFK/LGA-PHL-YUL.. Using US Air to LGA and SQ for the rest of the itinerary... or YUL-IAD/CLT-JFK
Im going to try -
YUL/PHL/FRA/ SGN STOP / SIN /BNE STOP / SIN / KUL/FRA/PHL/YUL