Apr 8, 2018, 10:40 pm
Last edit by: UA Fan
Routes that do not have fuel surcharges (YQ) when operated by carriers that normally charge YQ:
1. USA-Germany-Other country. If only the Germany-other country segment is on LH it does not have YQ. E.g. DFW-FRA-BLR with TATL on UA and FRA-BLR on LH.
2. USA-Canada-Other country. The USA-Canada segment on AC does not have YQ if the Canada-Other country segment is operated by a carrier that does not charge YQ. E.g. DFW-YYZ-ADD.
1. USA-Germany-Other country. If only the Germany-other country segment is on LH it does not have YQ. E.g. DFW-FRA-BLR with TATL on UA and FRA-BLR on LH.
2. USA-Canada-Other country. The USA-Canada segment on AC does not have YQ if the Canada-Other country segment is operated by a carrier that does not charge YQ. E.g. DFW-YYZ-ADD.
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May 20, 2018, 8:24 am
#2701
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: YYZ
Programs: FOTSG Tangerine Ex E35k (AC)
Posts: 5,612
Tried to find 5 seats in J on low YQ, but it's almost impossible for the March break 2019 period. So ended up with this itinerary:
YYZ-HND AC - 5J (stopover)
NRT-BKK TG - 2F/3J (<24 hrs)
BKK-HAN TG - 5J (destination)
SGN-PEK CA - 5J (open jaw)
PEK-LHR CA - 2F/5J (<24 hrs)
LHR-YYZ AC - 5J
Scamcharges: 926.56 + booking fee per person
Getting 5 seats limits a lot of options.
I will monitor to see if other airlines opens up and switch... hopefully will get lower scamcharges compared to the change fees.
Any other suggestions?
YYZ-HND AC - 5J (stopover)
NRT-BKK TG - 2F/3J (<24 hrs)
BKK-HAN TG - 5J (destination)
SGN-PEK CA - 5J (open jaw)
PEK-LHR CA - 2F/5J (<24 hrs)
LHR-YYZ AC - 5J
Scamcharges: 926.56 + booking fee per person
Getting 5 seats limits a lot of options.I will monitor to see if other airlines opens up and switch... hopefully will get lower scamcharges compared to the change fees.
Any other suggestions?
Yeah probably half that scam charge is LHR YYZ, as I think HND is protected so that’s about $550 alone. So fly back via ZRH (LX) or ORD (UA) (or similar).
Intra Europe flights are cheap and readily available but if you book separately remember to book a decent connection time (I’d recommend overnight).
Edit - If my dates are correct both 3/11 and 3/14 (plus others? Excluding 3/13) have a ZRH BRU YYZ for 275,000 miles (ie 55k x 5) and $364 for 5 people all J available ... So it’s not exactly direct but it saves quite a few dollars. Likely any routing outside of LHR will save taxes.
Last edited by jc94; May 20, 2018 at 8:33 am
May 20, 2018, 8:34 am
#2702
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: YTZ
Programs: Hertz & Avis PC; National EE; SPG & Hilton Gold; AC 35K (yawn)
Posts: 5,921
Difficulty with that is there is already one open jaw used, so you are basically flying out of London NMW. I did a quick search in mid March and there is good availability many days LHR-ZRH-YUL-YTZ. (Last bit on Y, but you fleet free booze and a snack)
Edit: also some from LCY
Jun 12, 2018, 9:44 pm
#2704
Join Date: Mar 2013
Programs: Aeroplan, Amex AeroPlat
Posts: 977
YYZ-ORD AC J
ORD- NRT NH F
NRT - WUH NH J
One-way, 105K Miles
Taxes and fees $308, not sure what the YQ is exactly. Fare calculation below
YTO AC CHI R0.00NH TYO R0.00NH WUH R0.00NUC0.00 END
ROE1.288406 XT12.40SW6.10OI167.60YQ5.10XA15.00YR25.00SQ
47.40US7.30AY9.10XY7.30YC XF5.80ORD4.50
ORD- NRT NH F
NRT - WUH NH J
One-way, 105K Miles
Taxes and fees $308, not sure what the YQ is exactly. Fare calculation below
YTO AC CHI R0.00NH TYO R0.00NH WUH R0.00NUC0.00 END
ROE1.288406 XT12.40SW6.10OI167.60YQ5.10XA15.00YR25.00SQ
47.40US7.30AY9.10XY7.30YC XF5.80ORD4.50
Jun 12, 2018, 9:51 pm
#2705
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Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: YYC
Posts: 23,802
YYZ-ORD AC J
ORD- NRT NH F
NRT - WUH NH J
One-way, 105K Miles
Taxes and fees $308, not sure what the YQ is exactly. Fare calculation below
YTO AC CHI R0.00NH TYO R0.00NH WUH R0.00NUC0.00 END
ROE1.288406 XT12.40SW6.10OI167.60YQ5.10XA15.00YR25.00SQ
47.40US7.30AY9.10XY7.30YC XF5.80ORD4.50
ORD- NRT NH F
NRT - WUH NH J
One-way, 105K Miles
Taxes and fees $308, not sure what the YQ is exactly. Fare calculation below
YTO AC CHI R0.00NH TYO R0.00NH WUH R0.00NUC0.00 END
ROE1.288406 XT12.40SW6.10OI167.60YQ5.10XA15.00YR25.00SQ
47.40US7.30AY9.10XY7.30YC XF5.80ORD4.50
Jun 14, 2018, 2:21 pm
#2706
Join Date: Dec 2010
Programs: AC E, BA Bronze, HHonors Gold
Posts: 208
Route:
YUL-LGA J
JFK-NRT F
NRT-AKL J
Total 126.40 + 0.25 GST
Fare calculation
YMQ AC NYC R0.00NH TYO R0.00NZ AKL R0.00NUC0.00 END
ROE1.288406 XT14.40F116.20KK0.50XQ95.00XT PD11.90SW5.90OI
45.60US7.00AY4.90XA8.70XY7.00YC25.91CA15.00YR1.25X G2.49XQ
1.25YQ25.00SQ PDXF5.60JFK4.50 XF0.30JFK4.50
I tried to add the numbers but did not match the 126.40. Anyone knows how to do that?
YUL-LGA J
JFK-NRT F
NRT-AKL J
Total 126.40 + 0.25 GST
Fare calculation
YMQ AC NYC R0.00NH TYO R0.00NZ AKL R0.00NUC0.00 END
ROE1.288406 XT14.40F116.20KK0.50XQ95.00XT PD11.90SW5.90OI
45.60US7.00AY4.90XA8.70XY7.00YC25.91CA15.00YR1.25X G2.49XQ
1.25YQ25.00SQ PDXF5.60JFK4.50 XF0.30JFK4.50
I tried to add the numbers but did not match the 126.40. Anyone knows how to do that?
Jun 18, 2018, 9:14 pm
#2708
Join Date: Jun 2018
Posts: 6
Booked mini RTW before I was SE100k, Canada to HND, BKK, SIN, PER, IST, AMS, Canada, all in J for 2 of us -- TPac and TAtl on AC metal. Surcharges were over $1600. Months later when I reached SE100k, I called to change the one domestic flight on the return (SE100k opens seats that weren't previously available so we wouldn't have to have a 6 hour layover in YYZ). That changed caused a reissue of ticket and since I was now SE100K, there were no longer surcharges. Paid $150 for the change, got $1676 refund on SQ.
Jul 2, 2018, 11:47 am
#2709
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: YVR to SEA
Posts: 2,534
YVR-SEA-ICN-SYD pot (AC-OZ-OZ)
SYD-SIN-HKG stop (SQ - SYD-SIN is actually SYD-CBR-SIN in a 777-300 on one flight number. Didn't think SQ actually released 773 seats to partners, but there you go)
HKG-TPE-YVR (BR)
Booked for 3 pax in J, but SIN-HKG only had 2 seats and TPE-YVR only had one.
About $580 per person, of which $275 was YQ
SYD-SIN-HKG stop (SQ - SYD-SIN is actually SYD-CBR-SIN in a 777-300 on one flight number. Didn't think SQ actually released 773 seats to partners, but there you go)
HKG-TPE-YVR (BR)
Booked for 3 pax in J, but SIN-HKG only had 2 seats and TPE-YVR only had one.
About $580 per person, of which $275 was YQ
Jul 21, 2018, 12:54 pm
#2710
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Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: SFO
Programs: AC SE MM, BA Gold, SQ Silver, Bonvoy Tit LTG, Hyatt Glob, HH Diamond
Posts: 44,314
UA J SFO-SLC
UA J SLC-ORD
NH F ORD-HND
NH J NRT-PVG
HO F SHA-PEK
CA J PEK-ICN
STOP
TG J ICN-HKG
TG J HKG-HKT
POINT OF TURNAROUND
TG J HKT-FRA
STOP
LH J FRA-MUC
AC J MUC-YYZ
AC J YYZ-SFO
Anyway, I don't have the receipt yet, but they quoted something like $1039 per person. Does that sound right? Keep in mind I'm SE.
I plan to make changes (LH F for the TATL, and some kind of F for Asia to Europe), so there will be opportunities to recalculate, but I'm a little miffed by this. I've flown NH/TG/LH F SFO-Asia-Europe-SFO for significantly less.
They did have a hell of a time getting this booked, so I wonder if they did something manually and screwed it up.
Edit: Receipt just came through. 459.52 per person. That sounds much closer to what I expected. I guess the phone agent was wrong
04AUG18SFO UA X/SLC UA X/CHI R0.00NH NRT R0.00NH X/SHA
R0.00HO X/PEK R0.00CA SEL R0.00TG X/HKG TG HKT R0.00TG FRA
R0.00LH X/MUC AC X/YTO AC SFO R0.00CAD0.00 END ROE1.00
XT27.40CN24.50SW6.10OI137.90YQ48.40US14.80AY2.80E7 1.20G8
20.20HK7.60I527.00G332.60BP27.70TS9.30XY7.50YC5.20 XA4.00SQ48.
80XT XF6.00ORD4.50
Is that 137.90 or 48.40 for the YQ? I can never decipher these things.
UA J SLC-ORD
NH F ORD-HND
NH J NRT-PVG
HO F SHA-PEK
CA J PEK-ICN
STOP
TG J ICN-HKG
TG J HKG-HKT
POINT OF TURNAROUND
TG J HKT-FRA
STOP
LH J FRA-MUC
AC J MUC-YYZ
AC J YYZ-SFO
Anyway, I don't have the receipt yet, but they quoted something like $1039 per person. Does that sound right? Keep in mind I'm SE.
I plan to make changes (LH F for the TATL, and some kind of F for Asia to Europe), so there will be opportunities to recalculate, but I'm a little miffed by this. I've flown NH/TG/LH F SFO-Asia-Europe-SFO for significantly less.
They did have a hell of a time getting this booked, so I wonder if they did something manually and screwed it up.
Edit: Receipt just came through. 459.52 per person. That sounds much closer to what I expected. I guess the phone agent was wrong
04AUG18SFO UA X/SLC UA X/CHI R0.00NH NRT R0.00NH X/SHA
R0.00HO X/PEK R0.00CA SEL R0.00TG X/HKG TG HKT R0.00TG FRA
R0.00LH X/MUC AC X/YTO AC SFO R0.00CAD0.00 END ROE1.00
XT27.40CN24.50SW6.10OI137.90YQ48.40US14.80AY2.80E7 1.20G8
20.20HK7.60I527.00G332.60BP27.70TS9.30XY7.50YC5.20 XA4.00SQ48.
80XT XF6.00ORD4.50
Is that 137.90 or 48.40 for the YQ? I can never decipher these things.
Last edited by canadiancow; Jul 21, 2018 at 1:08 pm
Jul 21, 2018, 1:25 pm
#2712
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: YVR - MILLS Waypoint (It's the third house on the left)
Programs: AC*SE100K, wood level status in various other programs
Posts: 6,222
Jul 21, 2018, 1:34 pm
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Jul 21, 2018, 5:16 pm
#2714
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: YVR - MILLS Waypoint (It's the third house on the left)
Programs: AC*SE100K, wood level status in various other programs
Posts: 6,222
Jul 21, 2018, 5:29 pm
#2715
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Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: SFO
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