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stevenshev Jan 24, 2009 5:57 pm

Issues Getting LX Seats Using Aeroplan?
 
LX is the only carrier that gives me issues when booking using Aeroplan. More often than not, if EF or M&M is showing O2, Aeroplan shows only O1. Today, looking for ORD-ZRH nonstop in August, EF shows X9I9O2, M&M shows I4+, Aeroplan shows X0I0O0.

Is this intentional on Aeroplan's part? Filtering a la United? Or is it just a technical error that can somehow be corrected if referred to the correct people?

stevenshev Jan 25, 2009 11:15 am

60 views and not a single response? Nobody? Bueller?

yyzgigi Jan 25, 2009 12:55 pm


Originally Posted by stevenshev (Post 11136052)
LX is the only carrier that gives me issues when booking using Aeroplan. More often than not, if EF or M&M is showing O2, Aeroplan shows only O1. Today, looking for ORD-ZRH nonstop in August, EF shows X9I9O2, M&M shows I4+, Aeroplan shows X0I0O0.

Is this intentional on Aeroplan's part? Filtering a la United? Or is it just a technical error that can somehow be corrected if referred to the correct people?

How are you deciding if Aeroplan has availability?

stevenshev Jan 25, 2009 1:04 pm


Originally Posted by yyzgigi (Post 11139449)
How are you deciding if Aeroplan has availability?

Not by guessing, or relying on the website (not sure which of those is more accurate :D), I assure you. ;)

No, I always call Aeroplan, and have consistently had this problem.

yyzgigi Jan 25, 2009 1:15 pm


Originally Posted by stevenshev (Post 11139498)
Not by guessing, or relying on the website (not sure which of those is more accurate :D), I assure you. ;)

No, I always call Aeroplan, and have consistently had this problem.

Sorry cannot help -- wanted to make sure you were calling AE as that is unfortunately the only accurate measure.

I know there is a problem showing availability with the ANA tool on LX. I've only ever tried to redeem once on LX and had no problem, but it is was for a 1 hour flight in J sodoubt there was much demand.

luxury Jan 25, 2009 1:19 pm

I have never been able to redeem a J or F reward on LX using Aeroplan -- I have had better luck with SQ F!!

jarusoba Jan 25, 2009 1:30 pm

ExpertFlyer shows LX award availability but don't know if it's the same as what AP would let you book.

FlyerGoldII Jan 25, 2009 3:02 pm

KVS tool/ANA FF program does not show LX award availability.

gbsfo Jan 25, 2009 4:07 pm

Come on folks, read the first post. It is clear the OP knows you can check LX XIO space on EF. What is being asked is if anyone has noticed that what EF shows and what Aeroplan has available differ on a consistent basis? Are Aeroplan filtering LX availability?

All I can add from my own observations is that LX applies its sometimes very strict married segment logic to awards also. So are you looking sector by sector on EF and asking Aeroplan from origin to destination? Could this be an issue if you have multiple LX sectors?

FlyerGoldII Jan 25, 2009 4:47 pm


Originally Posted by gbsfo (Post 11140428)
Come on folks, read the first post. It is clear the OP knows you can check LX XIO space on EF. What is being asked is if anyone has noticed that what EF shows and what Aeroplan has available differ on a consistent basis? Are Aeroplan filtering LX availability?

All I can add from my own observations is that LX applies its sometimes very strict married segment logic to awards also. So are you looking sector by sector on EF and asking Aeroplan from origin to destination? Could this be an issue if you have multiple LX sectors?


Yes, I did read the first post. The point being that with certain data bases (ie KVS/ANA) not having access to LX awards - the point of cross referencing EF and M and M listing of award availability with Aeroplan's which are not equivalent - one can not triple check with those KVS/ANA data bases to see which was is correct, or not. As an extension of your statement, does Aeroplan filter Starnet's listing of Star Alliance award availability (beyond LX's), just as UA's Mileage Plus program does for certain airlines?

The question is how does EF vs M and M vs Aeroplan vs KVS/ANA compare in terms of listed award availability on LH/OS or other European airlines - do the issues of the OP applies for award availability on these other European airlines?

stevenshev Jan 27, 2009 1:54 pm

To check the married segment question - I called back. New itin, just requested that one segment, nothing in X, I, or O.

gospelle Jan 29, 2009 1:19 am

oh come on people! is it too hard to type a couple extra characters on the keyboard so someone other than a flyertalk nerd can understand you?

It's not like I'm not trying here. I looked up each one of the acronyms in the original post in the flyer talk glossary, and almost none of them exist there. If you're going to show how smart you are that you can talk in code, at least give us amatuers a fighting chance by uploading the acronyms to the glossary!

M&M, EF, I4+??? and for crying out loud, X9I9O2 !!!??:confused:

I'm begging you, give me a freaking chance here! :)

tylorcl Jan 29, 2009 3:24 am


Originally Posted by gospelle (Post 11162212)
oh come on people! is it too hard to type a couple extra characters on the keyboard so someone other than a flyertalk nerd can understand you?

It's not like I'm not trying here. I looked up each one of the acronyms in the original post in the flyer talk glossary, and almost none of them exist there. If you're going to show how smart you are that you can talk in code, at least give us amatuers a fighting chance by uploading the acronyms to the glossary!

M&M, EF, I4+??? and for crying out loud, X9I9O2 !!!??:confused:

I'm begging you, give me a freaking chance here! :)

M&M: miles and more
EF: expertflyer
I4: 4 I class seat
X9I9O2: X seat 9, etc

ChrisA330 Jan 29, 2009 8:25 am


Originally Posted by tylorcl (Post 11162437)
M&M: miles and more
EF: expertflyer
I4: 4 I class seat
X9I9O2: X seat 9, etc

And to further your explanation a little more

I class is the Business Class Award Inventory for Swiss (and most other Star Alliance Partners - AC is an exception here)
X Class is for Economy Awards
O Class is for First Awards

RCyyz Jan 29, 2009 9:54 am


Originally Posted by gospelle (Post 11162212)
oh come on people! is it too hard to type a couple extra characters on the keyboard so someone other than a flyertalk nerd can understand you?

Well yes, frankly it is. :p

Don't worry. Just keep reading the posts and you'll pick up on the lingo. It took me a while too but I (almost) speak fluent FT now. ;)


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