Trans-Pac business class reward ticketed for 100,000 miles. AP now wants 15K more.
Nov 29, 2008, 4:48 pm
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Nov 29, 2008, 5:19 pm
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I had not yet phoned to try booking the following, but guess I better rethink my travel plans for next summer. I was wanting to do YEG-YVR-NRT(stopover)-SIN-PER (open jaw) SYD-YVR-YEG (I was planning to use IKK for all AC segments, which is why I didn't bother trying to book yet).
Nov 29, 2008, 5:26 pm
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Sorry for being OT, but I assume from your post that *A awards booked through aeroplan only allow an open jaw OR a stop over. I had always assumed that *A awards also allowed both a stop over and open jaw (or is it that you are not allowed to have the stop over within North America).
I had not yet phoned to try booking the following, but guess I better rethink my travel plans for next summer. I was wanting to do YEG-YVR-NRT(stopover)-SIN-PER (open jaw) SYD-YVR-YEG (I was planning to use IKK for all AC segments, which is why I didn't bother trying to book yet).
I had not yet phoned to try booking the following, but guess I better rethink my travel plans for next summer. I was wanting to do YEG-YVR-NRT(stopover)-SIN-PER (open jaw) SYD-YVR-YEG (I was planning to use IKK for all AC segments, which is why I didn't bother trying to book yet).
Stopovers: No stopovers permitted
Exceptions:
- One stopover is permitted in addition to the point of turnaround for **Inter continental travel only**
- One stopover is permitted in addition to the point of turnaround between Canada/Cont. USA and Hawaii/Puerto Rico
- One stopover is permitted in addition to the point of turnaround between Canada/Continental USA and Mexico, Central America and the Caribbean.
- One stopover is permitted in addition to the point of turnaround within the same continent only when allowable routing must be via another continent:
ADD - LH - FRA(O) - LH - MAA: stop only permitted at the hub
International open JAW:
- One open jaw permitted at either the point of origin or the point of turnaround in addition to stopover when permitted- see above exceptions.
So yes your routing should be valid. However the rules for AC Rewards are different :
Stopovers:
One stop plus point of turnaround for all rewards except for to/from Australia/Asia/TLV where two stops plus the point of turnaround is allowed.
Open Jaw :
Permitted as follows:
- Must be either at the origin or point of turnaround.
- Open Jaws are permitted in lieu of a stop except for to/from
Australia/Asia/TLV where an open JAW could replace one of
the two stops permitted.
- The Open Jaw must be shorter than the shortest distance flown for
North American destinations. (Hawaii, Alaska and Puerto Rico are
considered as domestic for open JAWS)
- Destinations must be in the same IATA zone for international
itineraries.
Never assume anything YEG USER! hehe
Nov 29, 2008, 7:18 pm
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I just booked a *A Asia award yesterday and the agent told me that effective December 8 you will be allowed 2 stopovers, or 1 stopover and 1 open jaw(Asia awards).
Bestof2k9...can you confirm I was accurately informed?
If correct, it's a nice enhancement...gives you 3 destinations on one award.^
Nov 29, 2008, 7:24 pm
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I just booked a *A Asia award yesterday and the agent told me that effective December 8 you will be allowed 2 stopovers, or 1 stopover and 1 open jaw(Asia awards).
Bestof2k9...can you confirm I was accurately informed?
If correct, it's a nice enhancement...gives you 3 destinations on one award.^
Bestof2k9...can you confirm I was accurately informed?
If correct, it's a nice enhancement...gives you 3 destinations on one award.^
Unfortunatly I cannot confirm or deny this at the present time, there has been a briefing given regarding changes to *A rewards at our offices, but since I have been away for a month on vacation I have yet to receive it. As soon as I do get all the info I will keep you guys informed. Cheers!
Nov 29, 2008, 7:26 pm
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The big question yet unanswered is why OP chose to change the flights in the first place. My feeling is that the AC at a higher redemption level was the more expeditious route, yet the other award ticket was available for fewer miles, so gamble on the change and hope to get away with it. Otherwise quit the caterwauling and go back to the original itinerary, don't worry about being dunned for the extra miles and even more importantly don't ris your flight because you are a right fighter.
Why I chose to change my Trans-Pac flight to Canada is irrelevant. The only things that are relevant in this instance are what I was told the award would cost and what I agreed to pay for same.
Dec 10, 2008, 5:35 pm
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As I am supposed to fly tomorrow, and those many weeks ago my local Air Canada ticket office told me I wold have to call today by today and authorise the release of those extra 15,000 reward miles, I'm bumping this one last time to see if anyone has some last-minute thoughts on how to proceed. Starting to doubt myself; don't want to lose my reward seat.
If I call Air Canada to confirm the ticket, they are likely to ask for the 15,000 miles, I would think. (I would be calling the local ticket office,I guess.)
If I call Air Canada to confirm the ticket, they are likely to ask for the 15,000 miles, I would think. (I would be calling the local ticket office,I guess.)
Dec 10, 2008, 5:48 pm
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As I am supposed to fly tomorrow, and those many weeks ago my local Air Canada ticket office told me I wold have to call today by today and authorise the release of those extra 15,000 reward miles, I'm bumping this one last time to see if anyone has some last-minute thoughts on how to proceed. Starting to doubt myself; don't want to lose my reward seat.
If I call Air Canada to confirm the ticket, they are likely to ask for the 15,000 miles, I would think. (I would be calling the local ticket office,I guess.)
If I call Air Canada to confirm the ticket, they are likely to ask for the 15,000 miles, I would think. (I would be calling the local ticket office,I guess.)
In reality, I'm sure nothing but will happen, except a fun filled adventure just as you planned. Enjoy the trip.
Dec 10, 2008, 8:08 pm
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Hey Yycworldtraveler,
Unfortunatly I cannot confirm or deny this at the present time, there has been a briefing given regarding changes to *A rewards at our offices, but since I have been away for a month on vacation I have yet to receive it. As soon as I do get all the info I will keep you guys informed. Cheers!
Unfortunatly I cannot confirm or deny this at the present time, there has been a briefing given regarding changes to *A rewards at our offices, but since I have been away for a month on vacation I have yet to receive it. As soon as I do get all the info I will keep you guys informed. Cheers!
Canada via YVR to Sydney on AC,
stopover in Sydney,
Sydney to Auckland on Air NZ
stopover in Aukland,
Auckland to YVR via Air NZ
If this is a valid routing, am I allowed one more stopover, as per the new Aeroplan enhancements? If so, when will these new enhancements be announced on the Aeroplan web site?
