"Somewhat scary one near Winnipeg" - The AC Master Incidents Thread
Feb 20, 2019, 9:29 pm
#3901
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Well, there has to be a first landing on any type, at some point. Performing a 'first' on a revenue flight is standard practice, for all major airlines.
I wonder what previous aircraft types the first officer has flown, and if AC's initial type training includes unusual-attitude recovery in the flare.
I wonder what previous aircraft types the first officer has flown, and if AC's initial type training includes unusual-attitude recovery in the flare.
Can only imagine the teasing he gets.
Nickname among the crews: Tailstrike.
Last edited by taupo; Feb 20, 2019 at 9:30 pm Reason: edited to fill in the blank
Feb 27, 2019, 5:59 am
#3902
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AC42 YYZ-DEL turned around midflight
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/ACA42
YYZ-DEL turned around halfway over Europe, presumably due to PK airspace closure en route?
YYZ-DEL turned around halfway over Europe, presumably due to PK airspace closure en route?
Feb 27, 2019, 6:06 am
#3904
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From EF:
AC0042/26FEB EQU ACA789P04
CTY TML ARR DEP GRND AIR CABINS J O Y
YYZ - 2125 - 13.45
DEL 2140*1 TOTAL TIME YYZDEL 13.45
RMKS/AIR RETURN TO YYZ AND CANCEL DUE TO POLITICAL SITUATION AND AIRSPACE CLOSURE.AIR RETURN AND CANCEL DUE TO POLITICAL SITUATION AND AIRSPACE CLOSURE
YYZ 2139 00:14L YYZ?1152 789 SEP AD EA RETND
YYZ DEL
DEP TML T1 GATE --/E77
ARR TML 3 GATE --/-----
CTY TML ARR DEP GRND AIR CABINS J O Y
YYZ - 2125 - 13.45
DEL 2140*1 TOTAL TIME YYZDEL 13.45
RMKS/AIR RETURN TO YYZ AND CANCEL DUE TO POLITICAL SITUATION AND AIRSPACE CLOSURE.AIR RETURN AND CANCEL DUE TO POLITICAL SITUATION AND AIRSPACE CLOSURE
YYZ 2139 00:14L YYZ?1152 789 SEP AD EA RETND
YYZ DEL
DEP TML T1 GATE --/E77
ARR TML 3 GATE --/-----
Feb 27, 2019, 6:15 am
#3909
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Interestingly, UA82, EWR-DEL, which pretty much follows the same routing, did not return, but diverted to LHR
EWR-BOM, diverted to FRA.
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/UAL82
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/UAL48
EWR-BOM, diverted to FRA.
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/UAL82
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/UAL48
Feb 27, 2019, 6:32 am
#3910
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Interesting, I thought this flight normally went over the pole, this flight seems a lot more 'straight' than normal. It's been fixed now, it didn't do another turn over Norway.
It looks like they were pretty much half way so enough fuel to return all the way to snowmageddon, perhaps not the case with the UA one. I guess not dumping pax into a country in Europe where they could end up being liable to cover hotels is better for AC. Although perhaps this is an extraordinary circumstance. Just like weather.
It looks like they were pretty much half way so enough fuel to return all the way to snowmageddon, perhaps not the case with the UA one. I guess not dumping pax into a country in Europe where they could end up being liable to cover hotels is better for AC. Although perhaps this is an extraordinary circumstance. Just like weather.
Feb 27, 2019, 7:00 am
#3912
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Interestingly, UA82, EWR-DEL, which pretty much follows the same routing, did not return, but diverted to LHR
EWR-BOM, diverted to FRA.
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/UAL82
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/UAL48
EWR-BOM, diverted to FRA.
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/UAL82
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/UAL48
Feb 27, 2019, 7:15 am
#3913
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Feb 27, 2019, 7:18 am
#3914
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Feb 27, 2019, 7:22 am
#3915
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Still it sounds like UA just dumped 500 people into Europe. And in extraordinary circumstances airlines can land pretty much anywhere. Like all those YYR planes ~17 years ago. I'm assuming UA would have had to do something with those pax until they could fly them back TATL.