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"Somewhat scary one near Winnipeg" - The AC Master Incidents Thread

"Somewhat scary one near Winnipeg" - The AC Master Incidents Thread

Old Jul 15, 2018, 10:32 pm
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Originally Posted by ffsim
That begs the question: what portion of the total cost of the diversion to Air Canada does the $3,474 represent?
Sounds like they only presented the bill from YYR for restitution, and literally nothing else.
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Old Jul 16, 2018, 10:02 am
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Originally Posted by tracon
AC7 returned to YVR last night with a bathroom issue.
Left a few hours later with a new plane.
Anyone know what exactly this bathroom issue was?

Flying to Alaska and back must be a nightmare for people in WHY class. Perhaps they will feel better if AQM is awarded accordingly
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Old Jul 16, 2018, 10:11 pm
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Originally Posted by Stranger
You seem unwilling to recognize the danger of flying a plane in that condition.
My posts are clear. Not once have I commented on the risk involved in flying the airplane it its condition, nor make claim the incident was anything but. I did discuss the airline's procedures in place at the time, and the common tendencies of a lay person's reaction to the specific incident. I'll let others defend arguments I didn't make, cuz I ain't about to.
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Old Jul 25, 2018, 10:16 am
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https://www.halifaxtoday.ca/local-ne...halifax-995425

HALIFAX - An Air Canada flight from St. John's to Toronto was forced to make an emergency landing in Halifax late Tuesday night because of mechanical issues.

Air Canada Flight 687 departed St. John's around 9:30 p.m. AT and was forced to land at Halifax Stanfield International Airport just before 11 p.m due to mechanical problems mid-flight.
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Old Jul 30, 2018, 1:57 am
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Whoops... what is it with AC pilots and accidentally entering taxiways?
Air Canada #AC5 Montreal to Tokyo has inadvertently entered taxiway construction area after landing; now stuck.
Runway 16L closed.
Tokyo Narita Airport now operating on a single runway (16R) operations.
NHK news heli orbiting around.
C-GHPV Boeing 787-8
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Old Jul 30, 2018, 4:29 am
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Another post.

Tom is worth following.

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Old Jul 30, 2018, 10:55 am
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https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/ea...-wrong-taxiway

Work began to tow away the aircraft five hours after it entered the partially-paved taxiway, said NHK.

Six flights were cancelled and others diverted to alternative airports, the reports said.
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Old Jul 30, 2018, 1:29 pm
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I'm also curious how they moved AC5 if the regular tug couldn't access the nose of the aircraft at Narita - does anybody know?

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Old Jul 30, 2018, 5:20 pm
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Originally Posted by tcook052
https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/ea...-wrong-taxiway

Work began to tow away the aircraft five hours after it entered the partially-paved taxiway, said NHK.

Six flights were cancelled and others diverted to alternative airports, the reports said.
great job air canada great job *hands clapping*
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Old Jul 30, 2018, 6:22 pm
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Originally Posted by global happy traveller
great job air canada great job *hands clapping*
Not quite fair at this stage, before we know the details. Although the incident was probably due to aircrew error, we must consider the possibility that taxi charts were inaccurate (admittedly unlikely) or that ATC gave confusing or incorrect instructions (again, improbable). Weather/time of day doesn't seem to be a factor judging by photos; maybe there was implied pressure to vacate the runway? And were the physical barriers and paint markings adequate? Either way, it shouldn't have happened, and it's fortunate a collision with something hard (paving machine) or soft (paving contractor) didn't occur.

Karmic reciprocation? It was only a couple weeks ago that a JAL 788 did the same thing at YVR: taxied onto a closed surface and required assistance to extricate themselves, closing a runway in the process.
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Old Jul 30, 2018, 8:13 pm
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Originally Posted by CZAMFlyer
Not quite fair at this stage, before we know the details. Although the incident was probably due to aircrew error, we must consider the possibility that taxi charts were inaccurate (admittedly unlikely) or that ATC gave confusing or incorrect instructions (again, improbable). Weather/time of day doesn't seem to be a factor judging by photos; maybe there was implied pressure to vacate the runway? And were the physical barriers and paint markings adequate? Either way, it shouldn't have happened, and it's fortunate a collision with something hard (paving machine) or soft (paving contractor) didn't occur.

Karmic reciprocation? It was only a couple weeks ago that a JAL 788 did the same thing at YVR: taxied onto a closed surface and required assistance to extricate themselves, closing a runway in the process.
Based on a balance of probabilities here, the crew made a mistake. No, we should not chastise them because we are not holier than thou, but in this case they made a mistake. No one died, it's no big deal. Move on.
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Old Jul 30, 2018, 8:46 pm
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Originally Posted by CZAMFlyer
Not quite fair at this stage, before we know the details. Although the incident was probably due to aircrew error, we must consider the possibility that taxi charts were inaccurate (admittedly unlikely) or that ATC gave confusing or incorrect instructions (again, improbable). Weather/time of day doesn't seem to be a factor judging by photos; maybe there was implied pressure to vacate the runway? And were the physical barriers and paint markings adequate? Either way, it shouldn't have happened, and it's fortunate a collision with something hard (paving machine) or soft (paving contractor) didn't occur.

Karmic reciprocation? It was only a couple weeks ago that a JAL 788 did the same thing at YVR: taxied onto a closed surface and required assistance to extricate themselves, closing a runway in the process.

We've seen Asian Airlines landing in Canada can end up on a portion of the aerodrome under construction because of confusing ATC phraseology,
I suspect a Canadian Airlines can end up on the closed portion of an Asian Aerodrome for the same reason.

Definitely need to find out where the barricades were.
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Old Jul 30, 2018, 9:11 pm
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Could they (NRT Airport Operator) have sent buses and airstairs for deplaning the pax and FAs? Normally after a long-haul flight, there is not much catering left onboard. No food + five hour delay = angry paxs.
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Old Jul 31, 2018, 12:30 am
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How many kit kats were still on board at that point?
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Old Jul 31, 2018, 1:04 am
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Originally Posted by doubleflier
How many kit kats were still on board at that point?
Under these conditions is there a kit kat rationing protocol in effect?

Given Japan is the land of the weird flavored kit kats, perhaps emergency rations were delivered to the aircraft. Is so what flavor?
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