"Somewhat scary one near Winnipeg" - The AC Master Incidents Thread
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Flying to Alaska and back must be a nightmare for people in WHY class. Perhaps they will feel better if AQM is awarded accordingly
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My posts are clear. Not once have I commented on the risk involved in flying the airplane it its condition, nor make claim the incident was anything but. I did discuss the airline's procedures in place at the time, and the common tendencies of a lay person's reaction to the specific incident. I'll let others defend arguments I didn't make, cuz I ain't about to.
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https://www.halifaxtoday.ca/local-ne...halifax-995425
HALIFAX - An Air Canada flight from St. John's to Toronto was forced to make an emergency landing in Halifax late Tuesday night because of mechanical issues.
Air Canada Flight 687 departed St. John's around 9:30 p.m. AT and was forced to land at Halifax Stanfield International Airport just before 11 p.m due to mechanical problems mid-flight.
HALIFAX - An Air Canada flight from St. John's to Toronto was forced to make an emergency landing in Halifax late Tuesday night because of mechanical issues.
Air Canada Flight 687 departed St. John's around 9:30 p.m. AT and was forced to land at Halifax Stanfield International Airport just before 11 p.m due to mechanical problems mid-flight.
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Whoops... what is it with AC pilots and accidentally entering taxiways?
Air Canada #AC5 Montreal to Tokyo has inadvertently entered taxiway construction area after landing; now stuck.
Runway 16L closed.
Tokyo Narita Airport now operating on a single runway (16R) operations.
NHK news heli orbiting around.
C-GHPV Boeing 787-8
Runway 16L closed.
Tokyo Narita Airport now operating on a single runway (16R) operations.
NHK news heli orbiting around.
C-GHPV Boeing 787-8
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https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/ea...-wrong-taxiway
Work began to tow away the aircraft five hours after it entered the partially-paved taxiway, said NHK.
Six flights were cancelled and others diverted to alternative airports, the reports said.
Work began to tow away the aircraft five hours after it entered the partially-paved taxiway, said NHK.
Six flights were cancelled and others diverted to alternative airports, the reports said.
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I'm also curious how they moved AC5 if the regular tug couldn't access the nose of the aircraft at Narita - does anybody know?
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https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/ea...-wrong-taxiway
Work began to tow away the aircraft five hours after it entered the partially-paved taxiway, said NHK.
Six flights were cancelled and others diverted to alternative airports, the reports said.
Work began to tow away the aircraft five hours after it entered the partially-paved taxiway, said NHK.
Six flights were cancelled and others diverted to alternative airports, the reports said.
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Not quite fair at this stage, before we know the details. Although the incident was probably due to aircrew error, we must consider the possibility that taxi charts were inaccurate (admittedly unlikely) or that ATC gave confusing or incorrect instructions (again, improbable). Weather/time of day doesn't seem to be a factor judging by photos; maybe there was implied pressure to vacate the runway? And were the physical barriers and paint markings adequate? Either way, it shouldn't have happened, and it's fortunate a collision with something hard (paving machine) or soft (paving contractor) didn't occur.
Karmic reciprocation? It was only a couple weeks ago that a JAL 788 did the same thing at YVR: taxied onto a closed surface and required assistance to extricate themselves, closing a runway in the process.
Karmic reciprocation? It was only a couple weeks ago that a JAL 788 did the same thing at YVR: taxied onto a closed surface and required assistance to extricate themselves, closing a runway in the process.
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Not quite fair at this stage, before we know the details. Although the incident was probably due to aircrew error, we must consider the possibility that taxi charts were inaccurate (admittedly unlikely) or that ATC gave confusing or incorrect instructions (again, improbable). Weather/time of day doesn't seem to be a factor judging by photos; maybe there was implied pressure to vacate the runway? And were the physical barriers and paint markings adequate? Either way, it shouldn't have happened, and it's fortunate a collision with something hard (paving machine) or soft (paving contractor) didn't occur.
Karmic reciprocation? It was only a couple weeks ago that a JAL 788 did the same thing at YVR: taxied onto a closed surface and required assistance to extricate themselves, closing a runway in the process.
Karmic reciprocation? It was only a couple weeks ago that a JAL 788 did the same thing at YVR: taxied onto a closed surface and required assistance to extricate themselves, closing a runway in the process.
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Not quite fair at this stage, before we know the details. Although the incident was probably due to aircrew error, we must consider the possibility that taxi charts were inaccurate (admittedly unlikely) or that ATC gave confusing or incorrect instructions (again, improbable). Weather/time of day doesn't seem to be a factor judging by photos; maybe there was implied pressure to vacate the runway? And were the physical barriers and paint markings adequate? Either way, it shouldn't have happened, and it's fortunate a collision with something hard (paving machine) or soft (paving contractor) didn't occur.
Karmic reciprocation? It was only a couple weeks ago that a JAL 788 did the same thing at YVR: taxied onto a closed surface and required assistance to extricate themselves, closing a runway in the process.
Karmic reciprocation? It was only a couple weeks ago that a JAL 788 did the same thing at YVR: taxied onto a closed surface and required assistance to extricate themselves, closing a runway in the process.
We've seen Asian Airlines landing in Canada can end up on a portion of the aerodrome under construction because of confusing ATC phraseology,
I suspect a Canadian Airlines can end up on the closed portion of an Asian Aerodrome for the same reason.
Definitely need to find out where the barricades were.
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