"Somewhat scary one near Winnipeg" - The AC Master Incidents Thread
Jan 13, 2020, 11:35 am
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That was partly why I wondered why they stopped in a third country that some passengers may not have had visa's/permission to enter etc, rather than continuing when they know the passengers all have clearance to travel to Australia. I can't imagine it's any easier for the family to repatriate the body from the USA vs Australia.
I'd imagine an airline declaring a body would be 1000x worse.
Edit: they could also have diverted due to crew feeling unwell / unable to serve their safety duties for the rest of the long flight.
Jan 13, 2020, 12:30 pm
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Australian customs laws are crazy strict. Declaring "just a chocolate bar" puts them on high alert-half the border control force rushes up to inspect the ingredients list for any milk/nuts/seeds.
I'd imagine an airline declaring a body would be 1000x worse.
Edit: they could also have diverted due to crew feeling unwell / unable to serve their safety duties for the rest of the long flight.
I'd imagine an airline declaring a body would be 1000x worse.
Edit: they could also have diverted due to crew feeling unwell / unable to serve their safety duties for the rest of the long flight.
Jan 13, 2020, 2:36 pm
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Very sad news about male passenger who died during mid flight from YVR-BNE.
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https://bc.ctvnews.ca/passenger-decl...lulu-1.4765356
Jan 13, 2020, 2:39 pm
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I didn't read the article, but I am assuming the deceased person is not an Australian citizen? If that person is Australian then it makes sense to carry the body to Australia. Otherwise I would imagine transporting the body back to Canada would be very expensive at least, and I am not sure what kind of legal work is required.
Jan 13, 2020, 5:12 pm
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The links state Visitor Aloha Society of Hawaii hired a nurse to look after the UM.
I'm no medical expert, but aren't there parameters with declaring someone dead?
I suspect this can be done with the help of medlink.
Had the flight already turned towards Hawaii while the passenger was still being resuscitated?
I suspect this can be done with the help of medlink.
Had the flight already turned towards Hawaii while the passenger was still being resuscitated?
Jan 13, 2020, 6:35 pm
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The links state Visitor Aloha Society of Hawaii hired a nurse to look after the UM.
I'm no medical expert, but aren't there parameters with declaring someone dead?
I suspect this can be done with the help of medlink.
Had the flight already turned towards Hawaii while the passenger was still being resuscitated?
I'm no medical expert, but aren't there parameters with declaring someone dead?
I suspect this can be done with the help of medlink.
Had the flight already turned towards Hawaii while the passenger was still being resuscitated?
Jan 13, 2020, 7:04 pm
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Jan 13, 2020, 7:11 pm
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So it seems
"An Australian man travelling with his wife and five children on an Air Canada flight to Brisbane has died during the journey."
https://10daily.com.au/news/world/a2...sbane-20200113
"An Australian man travelling with his wife and five children on an Air Canada flight to Brisbane has died during the journey."
https://10daily.com.au/news/world/a2...sbane-20200113
Jan 13, 2020, 7:17 pm
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I don't know what the SOP is, but a passenger died on my flight from YYZ-HND once. I was seated in the front J cabin and the only thing I noticed was that they called for a doctor and an FA ran by with a medical kit. We were somewhere around Alaska at the time if I recall. I only knew what happened after landing when the captain came on and.asked everyone to remain seated because someone had passed and the Japanese authorities were coming on board. They did not remove the individual at that time. My FA friend told me they usually try to move people away from the deceased during but the flight was J0 Y0 (this was before PY). Difficult situation for a lot of passengers I'm sure.
Jan 14, 2020, 2:59 pm
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Jan 14, 2020, 8:24 pm
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AC 739 is not having a good day.
DOAC739/14JAN
* OPERATIONAL FLIGHT INFO * AC 739 -1 TU 14JAN20
CITY INFO HOUR (LOCAL)
YYZ ESTIMATED TIME OF DEPARTURE 2315
DELAY NON-SCHEDULED MAINTENANCE
AIRCRAFT FORCED TO RETURN
AIRCRAFT LANDED YYZ 2209
*1A PLANNED FLIGHT INFO* AC 739 -1 TU 14JAN20
APT ARR DY DEP DY CLASS/MEAL EQP GRND EFT TTL
YYZ 1905 TU JCDZPR/M Y/F 333 5:48
DOAC739/14JAN
* OPERATIONAL FLIGHT INFO * AC 739 -1 TU 14JAN20
CITY INFO HOUR (LOCAL)
YYZ ESTIMATED TIME OF DEPARTURE 2315
DELAY NON-SCHEDULED MAINTENANCE
AIRCRAFT FORCED TO RETURN
AIRCRAFT LANDED YYZ 2209
*1A PLANNED FLIGHT INFO* AC 739 -1 TU 14JAN20
APT ARR DY DEP DY CLASS/MEAL EQP GRND EFT TTL
YYZ 1905 TU JCDZPR/M Y/F 333 5:48
Jan 16, 2020, 8:35 am
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So it seems
"An Australian man travelling with his wife and five children on an Air Canada flight to Brisbane has died during the journey."
https://10daily.com.au/news/world/a2...sbane-20200113
"An Australian man travelling with his wife and five children on an Air Canada flight to Brisbane has died during the journey."
https://10daily.com.au/news/world/a2...sbane-20200113
A man who died in front of his family on an Air Canada flight from Vancouver to Brisbane, Australia, on Saturday boarded the plane sick, according to a media report.
Tanya Woodgate told Daily Mail Australia that her husband (38-year-old Christopher Woodgate) had a non-contagious form of meningitis that led to his death on board Air Canada flight AC035.
Jan 16, 2020, 8:50 am
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https://vancouversun.com/news/local-...er-to-brisbane
A man who died in front of his family on an Air Canada flight from Vancouver to Brisbane, Australia, on Saturday boarded the plane sick, according to a media report.
Tanya Woodgate told Daily Mail Australia that her husband (38-year-old Christopher Woodgate) had a non-contagious form of meningitis that led to his death on board Air Canada flight AC035.
A man who died in front of his family on an Air Canada flight from Vancouver to Brisbane, Australia, on Saturday boarded the plane sick, according to a media report.
Tanya Woodgate told Daily Mail Australia that her husband (38-year-old Christopher Woodgate) had a non-contagious form of meningitis that led to his death on board Air Canada flight AC035.
Article claims the form of meningitis he suffered from was treatable with antibiotics, but was not contagious, When seems like a contradiction: treatable with antibiotics implies it was bacterial, i.e. normally the most contagious form of meningitis. And the most dangerous.
Then there is the question, how did they know? This was a potentially dangerous situation and they should never have taken the flght but sought treatment in Canada before flying home.
Jan 17, 2020, 1:47 pm
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Two comments: the meningitis condition was widely known before flight and the man was cleared by all parties to board. And a diversion due to wind at destination is not an incident; it's a planned part of every flight.