"Somewhat scary one near Winnipeg" - The AC Master Incidents Thread
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From the CTV story (boldface mine): The flight was supposed to take off from YVR at 2 p.m. but was already more than an hour behind schedule when #fishgate happened.
The AC CEO spent yesterday at YVR, in which he observed the challenges AC's staffing crunch is placing upon wider airport operations, within and outside the terminal.
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Incident: Canada B763 at Halifax on Mar 4th 2019, runway excursion upon vacating the runway
By Simon Hradecky, created Tuesday, Mar 5th 2019 15:29Z, last updated Tuesday, Mar 5th 2019 16:01Z
An Air Canada Boeing 767-300, registration C-FTCA performing flight AC-614 from Toronto,ON to Halifax,NS (Canada) with 211 people on board, landed on Halifax's runway 23 at 18:30L (22:30Z) after performing a CAT II ILS approach. ATC had advised that taxiway C and B had not been cleared and were not usable and instructed the flight to vacate the runway via taxiway A at the end of the runway. Subsequently tower advised the end of the runway was "very slippery". About 2570 meters down the runway the aircraft turned too early and came to a stop in a snow bank short of taxiway B. The passengers disembarked onto the runway via stairs and were taken to the terminal.
Ground services reported the runway was 100% ice, the chemical truck had just broken down while trying to spray the runway, "not looking good".
A preceding landing reported the braking action was "very poor".
The aerodrome was closed for about 4 hours as result.
The Canadian TSB have dispatched a team of investigators on site.
The airline reported the aircraft could not taxi to the apron because of poor weather conditions. The aircraft was inspected by maintenance and towed to the apron.
Related NOTAMs:
A0736/19 NOTAMN
Q) CZQM/QMRLC/IV/NBO/A /000/999/4452N06330W005
A) CYHZ B) 1903042100 C) 1903042300
E) RWY 05/23 CLSD
A0739/19 NOTAMN
Q) CZQM/QMRLC/IV/NBO/A /000/999/4452N06330W005
A) CYHZ B) 1903042300 C) 1903050002
E) RWY 14/32 CLSD
A0741/19 NOTAMR A0738/19
Q) CZQM/QMRLC/IV/NBO/A /000/999/4452N06330W005
A) CYHZ B) 1903042235 C) 1903050200
E) RWY 05/23 CLSD
Metars:
CYHZ 050000Z 31021G28KT 3SM BR OVC002 M05/M05 A2925 RMK ST8 PRESRR SLP914=
CYHZ 042334Z 33020G29KT 4SM BR OVC003 M05/M05 A2922 RMK ST8 PRESRR SLP903=
CYHZ 042300Z 33023G29KT 2SM -FZDZ BR OVC003 M04/M04 A2919 RMK ST8 SLP892=
CYHZ 042240Z 33021G33KT 2SM -FZDZ BR OVC003 M03/M03 A2917 RMK ST8 PRESRR SLP885=
CYHZ 042234Z 32022G31KT 2SM -FZDZ BR OVC002 M03/M03 A2916 RMK ST8 PRESRR SLP882=
CYHZ 042229Z 33024G31KT 2SM -FZDZ BR OVC004 M02/M02 A2916 RMK ST8 PRESRR SLP882=
CYHZ 042209Z 32024G29KT 1 1/4SM R23/3000VP6000FT/U R14/3000VP6000FT/U -FZDZ BR VV002 M01/M01 A2914 RMK FG8 PRESRR SLP875=
CYHZ 042200Z 32019KT 1/4SM R23/3500FT/N R14/3000FT/N -DZ FG VV001 00/00 A2912 RMK FG8 PRESRR SLP869=
CYHZ 042127Z 34013KT 1/4SM R23/2400V4500FT/ R14/1600FT/N FG VV001 01/01 A2911 RMK FG8 SLP864=
CYHZ 042123Z 35011KT 3/8SM R23/2600FT/N R14/2000FT/N FG VV002 01/01 A2911 RMK FG8 SLP864=
CYHZ 042108Z 36009KT 1/2SM R23/2600FT/N R14/3500FT/D FG OVC002 01/01 A2911 RMK FG2ST6 SLP865=
CYHZ 042100Z 01011KT 1SM R23/4500VP6000FT/D R14/3000V4500FT/D -DZ BR OVC002 01/01 A2911 RMK ST8 SLP864=
CYHZ 042049Z 02011KT 2 1/2SM R14/5500VP6000FT/D -DZ BR OVC002 01/01 A2911 RMK ST8 PRESFR SLP865=
CYHZ 042000Z 04004KT 310V080 1 3/4SM R23/4500VP6000FT/D -RA BR OVC004 02/02 A2917 RMK ST8 SLP885=
CYHZ 041922Z CCA 11027G40KT 2SM -DZ BR OVC005 01/01 A2914 RMK ST8 PRESFR SLP876=
CYHZ 041906Z 11021G30KT 1 1/4SM R23/4000V5500FT/D R14/5500VP6000FT/D -RA BR OVC004 01/00 A2918 RMK ST8 PRESFR SLP890=
CYHZ 041900Z 11022G32KT 2 1/2SM R23/5000FT/N -RA BR OVC007 00/00 A2919 RMK NS8 PRESFR SLP894=
Map (Graphics: AVH/Google Earth):
Incident: Canada B763 at Halifax on Mar 4th 2019, runway excursion upon vacating the runway
By Simon Hradecky, created Tuesday, Mar 5th 2019 15:29Z, last updated Tuesday, Mar 5th 2019 16:01Z
An Air Canada Boeing 767-300, registration C-FTCA performing flight AC-614 from Toronto,ON to Halifax,NS (Canada) with 211 people on board, landed on Halifax's runway 23 at 18:30L (22:30Z) after performing a CAT II ILS approach. ATC had advised that taxiway C and B had not been cleared and were not usable and instructed the flight to vacate the runway via taxiway A at the end of the runway. Subsequently tower advised the end of the runway was "very slippery". About 2570 meters down the runway the aircraft turned too early and came to a stop in a snow bank short of taxiway B. The passengers disembarked onto the runway via stairs and were taken to the terminal.
Ground services reported the runway was 100% ice, the chemical truck had just broken down while trying to spray the runway, "not looking good".
A preceding landing reported the braking action was "very poor".
The aerodrome was closed for about 4 hours as result.
The Canadian TSB have dispatched a team of investigators on site.
The airline reported the aircraft could not taxi to the apron because of poor weather conditions. The aircraft was inspected by maintenance and towed to the apron.
Related NOTAMs:
A0736/19 NOTAMN
Q) CZQM/QMRLC/IV/NBO/A /000/999/4452N06330W005
A) CYHZ B) 1903042100 C) 1903042300
E) RWY 05/23 CLSD
A0739/19 NOTAMN
Q) CZQM/QMRLC/IV/NBO/A /000/999/4452N06330W005
A) CYHZ B) 1903042300 C) 1903050002
E) RWY 14/32 CLSD
A0741/19 NOTAMR A0738/19
Q) CZQM/QMRLC/IV/NBO/A /000/999/4452N06330W005
A) CYHZ B) 1903042235 C) 1903050200
E) RWY 05/23 CLSD
Metars:
CYHZ 050000Z 31021G28KT 3SM BR OVC002 M05/M05 A2925 RMK ST8 PRESRR SLP914=
CYHZ 042334Z 33020G29KT 4SM BR OVC003 M05/M05 A2922 RMK ST8 PRESRR SLP903=
CYHZ 042300Z 33023G29KT 2SM -FZDZ BR OVC003 M04/M04 A2919 RMK ST8 SLP892=
CYHZ 042240Z 33021G33KT 2SM -FZDZ BR OVC003 M03/M03 A2917 RMK ST8 PRESRR SLP885=
CYHZ 042234Z 32022G31KT 2SM -FZDZ BR OVC002 M03/M03 A2916 RMK ST8 PRESRR SLP882=
CYHZ 042229Z 33024G31KT 2SM -FZDZ BR OVC004 M02/M02 A2916 RMK ST8 PRESRR SLP882=
CYHZ 042209Z 32024G29KT 1 1/4SM R23/3000VP6000FT/U R14/3000VP6000FT/U -FZDZ BR VV002 M01/M01 A2914 RMK FG8 PRESRR SLP875=
CYHZ 042200Z 32019KT 1/4SM R23/3500FT/N R14/3000FT/N -DZ FG VV001 00/00 A2912 RMK FG8 PRESRR SLP869=
CYHZ 042127Z 34013KT 1/4SM R23/2400V4500FT/ R14/1600FT/N FG VV001 01/01 A2911 RMK FG8 SLP864=
CYHZ 042123Z 35011KT 3/8SM R23/2600FT/N R14/2000FT/N FG VV002 01/01 A2911 RMK FG8 SLP864=
CYHZ 042108Z 36009KT 1/2SM R23/2600FT/N R14/3500FT/D FG OVC002 01/01 A2911 RMK FG2ST6 SLP865=
CYHZ 042100Z 01011KT 1SM R23/4500VP6000FT/D R14/3000V4500FT/D -DZ BR OVC002 01/01 A2911 RMK ST8 SLP864=
CYHZ 042049Z 02011KT 2 1/2SM R14/5500VP6000FT/D -DZ BR OVC002 01/01 A2911 RMK ST8 PRESFR SLP865=
CYHZ 042000Z 04004KT 310V080 1 3/4SM R23/4500VP6000FT/D -RA BR OVC004 02/02 A2917 RMK ST8 SLP885=
CYHZ 041922Z CCA 11027G40KT 2SM -DZ BR OVC005 01/01 A2914 RMK ST8 PRESFR SLP876=
CYHZ 041906Z 11021G30KT 1 1/4SM R23/4000V5500FT/D R14/5500VP6000FT/D -RA BR OVC004 01/00 A2918 RMK ST8 PRESFR SLP890=
CYHZ 041900Z 11022G32KT 2 1/2SM R23/5000FT/N -RA BR OVC007 00/00 A2919 RMK NS8 PRESFR SLP894=
Map (Graphics: AVH/Google Earth):
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Flight Aware is showing total travel time as 18h 5m
Assuming the delay in KEF was 3+ hours, how does this work with crew timing out?
EF:
AC0046/04MAR EQU ACA77LB01
CTY TML ARR DEP GRND AIR CABINS J O Y
YYZ - 2040 - 14.55
BOM 2205*1 TOTAL TIME YYZBOM 14.55
RMKS/AC046 FIN 702 DLYD OFF LATE AC792 WHICH IS ON A TRACK DLY
ACCOUNTMTCE FO SEAT ISSUE. DIVERSION FOR MEDICAL FLIGHT DIVERSI
ON TO KEF ACCOUNT PAX MEDICAL.
YYZ 2121 00:41L KEF?0812 77L ANP AD AA
KEF?1010 00:16L BOM 0158 09:34L 77L ACT AD EA
YYZ BOM
DEP TML T1 GATE --/E73
ARR TML GATE --/-----
Assuming the delay in KEF was 3+ hours, how does this work with crew timing out?
EF:
AC0046/04MAR EQU ACA77LB01
CTY TML ARR DEP GRND AIR CABINS J O Y
YYZ - 2040 - 14.55
BOM 2205*1 TOTAL TIME YYZBOM 14.55
RMKS/AC046 FIN 702 DLYD OFF LATE AC792 WHICH IS ON A TRACK DLY
ACCOUNTMTCE FO SEAT ISSUE. DIVERSION FOR MEDICAL FLIGHT DIVERSI
ON TO KEF ACCOUNT PAX MEDICAL.
YYZ 2121 00:41L KEF?0812 77L ANP AD AA
KEF?1010 00:16L BOM 0158 09:34L 77L ACT AD EA
YYZ BOM
DEP TML T1 GATE --/E73
ARR TML GATE --/-----
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You would think they must be working under a waiver, or had a full relief crew onboard, given all the BOM/DEL issues this week.
On a related topic, I think AC45 set the record for longest AC flight today. 9:41 from DEL to CPH, 1:53 on the ground for fuel and crew change, and 8:52 for CPH to YVR. Total of 19 hours, 26 minutes. I really hope they disembarked everyone in CPH, but I doubt it...
On a related topic, I think AC45 set the record for longest AC flight today. 9:41 from DEL to CPH, 1:53 on the ground for fuel and crew change, and 8:52 for CPH to YVR. Total of 19 hours, 26 minutes. I really hope they disembarked everyone in CPH, but I doubt it...
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Flight Aware is showing total travel time as 18h 5m
Assuming the delay in KEF was 3+ hours, how does this work with crew timing out?
EF:
AC0046/04MAR EQU ACA77LB01
CTY TML ARR DEP GRND AIR CABINS J O Y
YYZ - 2040 - 14.55
BOM 2205*1 TOTAL TIME YYZBOM 14.55
RMKS/AC046 FIN 702 DLYD OFF LATE AC792 WHICH IS ON A TRACK DLY
ACCOUNTMTCE FO SEAT ISSUE. DIVERSION FOR MEDICAL FLIGHT DIVERSI
ON TO KEF ACCOUNT PAX MEDICAL.
YYZ 2121 00:41L KEF?0812 77L ANP AD AA
KEF?1010 00:16L BOM 0158 09:34L 77L ACT AD EA
YYZ BOM
DEP TML T1 GATE --/E73
ARR TML GATE --/-----
Assuming the delay in KEF was 3+ hours, how does this work with crew timing out?
EF:
AC0046/04MAR EQU ACA77LB01
CTY TML ARR DEP GRND AIR CABINS J O Y
YYZ - 2040 - 14.55
BOM 2205*1 TOTAL TIME YYZBOM 14.55
RMKS/AC046 FIN 702 DLYD OFF LATE AC792 WHICH IS ON A TRACK DLY
ACCOUNTMTCE FO SEAT ISSUE. DIVERSION FOR MEDICAL FLIGHT DIVERSI
ON TO KEF ACCOUNT PAX MEDICAL.
YYZ 2121 00:41L KEF?0812 77L ANP AD AA
KEF?1010 00:16L BOM 0158 09:34L 77L ACT AD EA
YYZ BOM
DEP TML T1 GATE --/E73
ARR TML GATE --/-----
Has stay flat seating propagated to the cockpit?
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What are the other typos?
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AC158 Mar7th is FIN 638 - Plane skidded off runway @ YHZ
The Mrs and I are scheduled to fly out tonight (March 7) on AC158 but its been delayed from 00:30 to 01:35. As the flight was a B767-300ER and AC only has one or two left in the mainline fleet I was curious. Sure enough its FIN 638, the same aircraft that skidded off the runway in Halifax a couple of days ago. Its already scheduled late, thirteen hours before departure, so to be proactive and avoid missing our MCO connection we switched and are flying out of YEG at the same time!
Kind of funny that it's the same aircraft, but when you are down to a couple it's not hard to keep track of them, lol
Kind of funny that it's the same aircraft, but when you are down to a couple it's not hard to keep track of them, lol