Air Canada Jazz Sucks !
Feb 9, 2008, 7:26 pm
#32
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According to the AC webcast on Thursday they are in fact refreshing the cabin interiors of the Dash 8 fleet.....they have also recently added some used Dash 8's to the fleet........And they have no intention of replacing them as they are not fuel hungry!
Feb 9, 2008, 8:28 pm
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While I don't like the tarmac to tarmac service, I have to say for the routes that they are used on (most, not all), they are fine. Fast to load and unload, luggage in skycheck is always there (for me), more reliable than Embraers in cold weather.
On the down side, they are noisy, uncomfortable for more than an hour's flight and there's always that tarmac to tarmac bit . . .
On the down side, they are noisy, uncomfortable for more than an hour's flight and there's always that tarmac to tarmac bit . . .
Feb 9, 2008, 8:44 pm
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Feb 10, 2008, 6:52 pm
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Crash 8's are so sad in my opinion! I flew one YOW-YUL in December and everytime I fly one it reminds me of flying a float plane. I agree these old dogs are due to be put to rest!
Feb 10, 2008, 8:14 pm
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Feb 11, 2008, 2:32 pm
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But of course. 
Or a mix of Q200 Q300 and Q400. It is a no-brainer.
http://www.bombardier.com/index.jsp?...3_1_2_4_4.html
Or a mix of Q200 Q300 and Q400. It is a no-brainer.
http://www.bombardier.com/index.jsp?...3_1_2_4_4.html
Feb 11, 2008, 3:22 pm
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Jazz handled a situation this morning on 7950 absolutely terrible.
It took 1.5 hrs t get fuel delivered to the dusty old Dash 8 and then on top of this logistical nightmare we had to line up in the de-icing bay only to head back to the gate after this lenghty delay becaues the pilot was too ill to fly.
Just like that after 2hrs the flight is cancelled and Jazz leaves us stranded in YYZ east hold satellite terminal with no direction except to deplane and clear cdn customs.
What sort of compensation am I entitled to? My whole day was a write off.
It took 1.5 hrs t get fuel delivered to the dusty old Dash 8 and then on top of this logistical nightmare we had to line up in the de-icing bay only to head back to the gate after this lenghty delay becaues the pilot was too ill to fly.
Just like that after 2hrs the flight is cancelled and Jazz leaves us stranded in YYZ east hold satellite terminal with no direction except to deplane and clear cdn customs.
What sort of compensation am I entitled to? My whole day was a write off.
Feb 11, 2008, 3:32 pm
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Tech question.
How picky are mechanics/pilots becoming before a plane is designated as 'mechanical?'
Could it be that what passed as OK a few years ago,e.g.toilet not flushing(just a loose example folks) would be a mechanical today?
As an extra,flight 7802 a few weeks ago went mechanical at YSB.All passengers deplaned and flight left for YYZ (or perhaps YXU) with only crew aboard.Nothing else was said and many re-booked on later flights or ended up driving to Toronto.
How picky are mechanics/pilots becoming before a plane is designated as 'mechanical?'
Could it be that what passed as OK a few years ago,e.g.toilet not flushing(just a loose example folks) would be a mechanical today?
As an extra,flight 7802 a few weeks ago went mechanical at YSB.All passengers deplaned and flight left for YYZ (or perhaps YXU) with only crew aboard.Nothing else was said and many re-booked on later flights or ended up driving to Toronto.
Feb 11, 2008, 4:17 pm
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Yes, I consider the Dash 8s perfectly good for the short time one sits in it and for the small markets they serve. Think of them as mini buses with wings.
Putting the economics of acquisitions costs aside, would new turboprops really provide a better dispatch rate than the old Dash 8s. Given that the current fleet is on a maintenance cycle, both hours and cycles, would the new planes have fewer glitches in between main cycles. Before assuming the answer is no because they are new, think of Embraer's issues with reliability.
Putting the economics of acquisitions costs aside, would new turboprops really provide a better dispatch rate than the old Dash 8s. Given that the current fleet is on a maintenance cycle, both hours and cycles, would the new planes have fewer glitches in between main cycles. Before assuming the answer is no because they are new, think of Embraer's issues with reliability.