Serious injuries reported on Calgary flight
Jan 10, 2008, 1:39 pm
#31
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Many years ago I saw a drinks cart strike a flight attendant when we encountered turbulence. A very sobering sight (especially since the cart hadn't reached me yet).
Jan 10, 2008, 1:43 pm
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The belt works perfectly and is quite comfortable in the lie-flat position, at least in the 777s. Wear it over the blanket though, so the FAs don't have to wake you up if it gets bumpy.
Jan 10, 2008, 1:53 pm
#33
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Supporting the mini-poll, I too wear my seatbelt whenever seated. Only once has it mattered: got some major turbulence going YYZ->EWR in a turboprop. Another reason to avoid Newark...
Jan 10, 2008, 2:02 pm
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Interesting discussion on professional pilots website prune.org.
http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthread.php?t=307936
There is a mention that computer problem is being considered....post # 27 et al.
http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthread.php?t=307936
There is a mention that computer problem is being considered....post # 27 et al.
Jan 10, 2008, 2:04 pm
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I should hope so.
I've been in a dropping 747 where dozens of people were literally flying around and bumping into the roof of the cabin. If you aren't worried enough about where you'll land when the plane suddenly stops dropping, have a thought for the person you might be landing on.
I feel sorry for the cabin staff who are normally not belted in for unexpected events like this one, which I'm just hearing reported as a "control problem".
Commander Bob
Chronic seat belter.
Jan 10, 2008, 2:08 pm
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Interesting discussion on professional pilots website prune.org.
http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthread.php?t=307936
There is a mention that computer problem is being considered....post # 27 et al.
http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthread.php?t=307936
There is a mention that computer problem is being considered....post # 27 et al.
"An Air Canada flight which rolled suddenly from side to side then plunged in the air may have suffered technical problems, according to passengers interviewed after the plane was diverted to Calgary.
An injured passenger is transported to hospital after an Air Canada plane encountered trouble and made an unscheduled landing at the Calgary airport.
(Larry MacDougal/Canadian Press)
The pilot of Flight 190, heading from Victoria to Toronto, came over the intercom to say there had been a computer failure and that they were flying the plane manually, Richard Kool, a passenger from Victoria, said in an email to CBC News.
Fellow passenger Jayne Harvey, a nurse from Keswick, Ont., said pilots told the flight "the computer had been knocked out."
Jan 10, 2008, 2:38 pm
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It may have been turbulence which exceeded the capabilities of the computer.
There was a "heavy" about 20 miles ahead and 200' above AC190.
Unlikely this was a contributing factor but you never know.
Wake turbulence decends at about 500'/min.
There was a "heavy" about 20 miles ahead and 200' above AC190.
Unlikely this was a contributing factor but you never know.
Wake turbulence decends at about 500'/min.
Jan 10, 2008, 3:06 pm
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details
http://www.thestar.com/News/Canada/article/292818
"Harvey said she helped flight attendants, some of whom had their own cuts and bruises, attend to injured passengers.
The 10 were taken to three city hospitals.
“They are all stable. No life-threatening injuries have been identified,” said Dr. Rob Abernathy, associate chief medical officer for the Calgary Health Region
...While they said it felt like the plane fell several hundred metres, the airline said data indicated the altitude drop was about 20 metres."
And from AC - positive news release includes:
"Of the ten individuals transferred to hospital with
non-life threatening injuries, at this time seven have now been released. The
remaining two passengers and one flight attendant in hospital are in stable
condition. Other passengers are continuing their onward travel."
"Harvey said she helped flight attendants, some of whom had their own cuts and bruises, attend to injured passengers.
The 10 were taken to three city hospitals.
“They are all stable. No life-threatening injuries have been identified,” said Dr. Rob Abernathy, associate chief medical officer for the Calgary Health Region
...While they said it felt like the plane fell several hundred metres, the airline said data indicated the altitude drop was about 20 metres."
And from AC - positive news release includes:
"Of the ten individuals transferred to hospital with
non-life threatening injuries, at this time seven have now been released. The
remaining two passengers and one flight attendant in hospital are in stable
condition. Other passengers are continuing their onward travel."
Last edited by B1; Jan 10, 2008 at 3:16 pm
Jan 10, 2008, 3:40 pm
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Good news that all except 3 seem to be OK. Hopefully the last 3 pax + crew will turn out fine after a night in the hospital.
A 20 metre drop doesn't sound like much at all, but maybe the plane was corkscrewing side-to-side as it was dropping relatively slowly. In any case, it'll be interesting to hear the report of what really happened. Must have been scary for those on board at the time!
A 20 metre drop doesn't sound like much at all, but maybe the plane was corkscrewing side-to-side as it was dropping relatively slowly. In any case, it'll be interesting to hear the report of what really happened. Must have been scary for those on board at the time!
Jan 10, 2008, 3:49 pm
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Jan 10, 2008, 4:14 pm
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How could you not think anything like this was possible?
Did you not listen to the safety briefings?
Simon
Jan 10, 2008, 4:23 pm
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