The never-ending 777 route shuffling

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Sep 28, 2007, 9:31 am

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Simon

a) the vast majority of the flying public is not a frequent traveller;
b) a sizable number of frequent travellers have their arrangements done by corporate TAs, who again, are not making a decision based on 777 vs. 763.

Simon

You guys kill me with your made-up statistics. I've had analysis done, and 84% of your posts are quoting non-existent measurements. Any corp of size now has online booking, and people arrange the flight times to match the planes they want. Sure on YUL-YYZ it doesn't matter, but for YYZ-YVR, you better believe it does.

Sep 28, 2007, 9:50 am

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Please go out on Yonge Street this afternoon and ask people what the difference is between an Airbus 319, a Boeing 767-200ER and a Embraer 190.

Sep 28, 2007, 10:13 am

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I thought the discussion was of people who fly, not the general public. Try the same test at Pearson in the security lines leading to AC gates.

(I actually think most people don't know the difference, except big planes vs. small planes -- RJs and similar crap -- but we're talking about AC's passengers, or flyers in general, and not the masses).

=aw

Sep 28, 2007, 10:21 am

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Originally Posted by kellytoronto

Not true.I fly YSB/YYZ/YVR/YLW in a couple of weeks.The YYZ/YVR is on a A321.

I could sit around and wait a few hours for a 763. Not.I would prefer a domestic 767 over a 321,agreed.Will transit as quickly as possible instead(I did call and receive my u/g

)

I want to get there.I do over a 100 segments a year and waiting for plane types would add up to too much wasted time.

Sep 28, 2007, 10:22 am

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Mrs. Zorn, who is not only beautiful but also quite brilliant, is not able to tell me (within hours of the flight) whether the plane had TV's for everyone on the backs of the seats.

Sep 28, 2007, 10:23 am

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Simon

Please go out on Yonge Street this afternoon and ask people what the difference is between an Airbus 319, a Boeing 767-200ER and a Embraer 190.

I will ask on St.Catherines Street here in Montreal.

Sep 28, 2007, 10:25 am

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Originally Posted by zorn

Mrs. Zorn, who is not only beautiful but also quite brilliant, is not able to tell me (within hours of the flight) whether the plane had TV's for everyone on the backs of the seats.

The lovely Mrs. acysb87 has learned that I should verify a J u/g for her in the 1st 3 rows of the a/c.

Sep 28, 2007, 11:34 am

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Originally Posted by acysb87

Not true.I fly YSB/YYZ/YVR/YLW in a couple of weeks.The YYZ/YVR is on a A321.

I could sit around and wait a few hours for a 763. Not.I would prefer a domestic 767 over a 321,agreed.Will transit as quickly as possible instead(I did call and receive my u/g

)

I want to get there.I do over a 100 segments a year and waiting for plane types would add up to too much wasted time.

Those of us that are of the 73% of Canadians that live in 90% of the large cities don't need to wait for connections on the 57% of AC's domestic fleet that does 85% of the longer domestic flights.

If you lived in Toronto, you'd schedule your flights to not be on a 767/320 if you could arrange it (assuming you flew in J).

Last edited by Simon; Sep 28, 2007 at 9:16 pm Reason: removed personal attack

Sep 28, 2007, 9:17 pm

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Please stay on topic

The topic of this thread is "The never-ending 777 route shuffling", not "criticize/discuss other members because I don't agree with their opinions."

Please remain on topic.

Thanks,

Simon
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Sep 28, 2007, 9:18 pm

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Originally Posted by ALW

Fair enough.

You would, in all likelihood, get approximately the same answer.

Simon

Sep 30, 2007, 5:57 am

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I forgot to mention when the 77L was switched to a 763, "I" availability was dropped from 9 to zero.

77L and 763 are not equivalent equipment. For example, many Y seats in XM'd 763 have only 31" seat pitch while it's 32" for the 77L and 34" for many Y seats in the A343.

I am glad that I have the authority to tell my corporate TA to book how I would like to travel rather than being told by the corporate TA how I would travel in reverse.

Sep 30, 2007, 6:40 am

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LHR-YYZ the 777 in NOV. keeps going from 777- 343/767. 3 times thus far.

I decide on what carrier to travel by the equipment.

So finally I gave up. Rather than chance it, I booked via ORD, I know it will be 777.
If I am paying premium fare, I do not want to end up on cr**ppy 763.
When I have other options and time.

I do not play aerolotto and will certainly not play equipmentlotto!!!

Sep 30, 2007, 7:36 am

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Do you believe you represent a "typical" Canadian airline passenger?

Sep 30, 2007, 7:39 am

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Quote:

Originally Posted by yyzprincess

Are you sure yyzprincess? The 763 old J class is still nicer and more spacious than the current UA C (unless you are on a plane with the new C but I don't think those are rolled out yet?). Also, connecting through ORD is a bit of a hassle as opposed to the straight shot out of YYZ. Just an idea, but if you are worried about the old J on AC, why not just fly BA with their NCCW??