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Yukonprince Mar 17, 2006 8:12 am

Dress Code - upgrading
 
With the chatter about dress code in the lounges....

I always wear casual when travelling EXCEPT when I am on standby to be upgraded.

I find the upgrade succes rate to be MUCH higher when I wear a shirt and tie. A genuine "good morning" to the GAs with a nice smile does wonders as well.

A nice thank you when you do get your upgrade is always appreciated by the GAs AND they just might remember you the next time you are in line for an upgrade....

airbus320 Mar 17, 2006 8:45 am


Originally Posted by Yukonprince
I find the upgrade succes rate to be MUCH higher when I wear a shirt and tie.

In the days when you could upgrade almost from any fare, I have had tremendous over the pond upgrade success wearing a suit and my "power tie" *.

In fact, I remember twice the gate agents commenting on how nice the tie was.

* This tie was purchased in a designer boutique in Paris and was purchased on sale. In fact, in spite of its age, it is still my favorite tie. :)

djjaguar64 Mar 17, 2006 9:37 am

I guess if I dressed as a Hip Hop Star(TRACK SUIT AND ALL THE BLING) and being an SE I would not stand a chance especially if an Aeroplan member in a suit was ahead of me. :confused:

airbus320 Mar 17, 2006 9:55 am


Originally Posted by djjaguar64
I guess if I dressed as a Hip Hop Star(TRACK SUIT AND ALL THE BLING) and being an SE I would not stand a chance especially if an Aeroplan member in a suit was ahead of me. :confused:


There is a reason why the NBA forced all those players into suits. :p

Doc Fraud Mar 17, 2006 9:58 am

Personally I think the effect is psychological....for the wearer! It makes you feel better by all means go ahead and do it, but I'm not convinced that it has much effect.

The upgrade rules are much more consistently enforced these days....not perfectly.... and there is nothing in there about tie wearers going first, unless they also happen to have 3 or 4 stripes on their shoulders.

DF

Fermat Mar 17, 2006 11:47 am


Originally Posted by Yukonprince
With the chatter about dress code in the lounges....

I always wear casual when travelling EXCEPT when I am on standby to be upgraded.

I find the upgrade succes rate to be MUCH higher when I wear a shirt and tie. A genuine "good morning" to the GAs with a nice smile does wonders as well.

A nice thank you when you do get your upgrade is always appreciated by the GAs AND they just might remember you the next time you are in line for an upgrade....

it's a myth these days. Unless you're fortunate enough to secure the lone I class seat in advance, the gate is much more consistent in enforcing fare basis, checkin time and member status than in the past. An SE in jeans on a higher fare will beat an E in a Boss, Ferragamo, or Versace any day.

You're right about the thank yous though - spreading politeness around benefits everyone's social interactions... just think of the next person in line who deals with an agent who is frazzled vs the one that has been kindly thanked.

airbus320 Mar 17, 2006 11:55 am

Please notice that my observation on dress and upgrade success was dated by the observation " in the days when we could upgrade from almost any fare"

Those days are gone ... as are the days of upgrades based on upgrade criteria that were not always clear.

Q Shoe Guy Mar 17, 2006 4:41 pm

Anecdotal evidence (oxymoron,I know) at YVR before boarding flights to Japan that the gate agent had their translator go around the waiting area and contacting well dressed passengers and those of the older generation for OP-UPs. This of course after they have op-uped all the status members first.

yyznomad Mar 17, 2006 4:47 pm


Originally Posted by Yukonprince
With the chatter about dress code in the lounges....

I always wear casual when travelling EXCEPT when I am on standby to be upgraded.

I find the upgrade succes rate to be MUCH higher when I wear a shirt and tie. A genuine "good morning" to the GAs with a nice smile does wonders as well.

A nice thank you when you do get your upgrade is always appreciated by the GAs AND they just might remember you the next time you are in line for an upgrade....

Regardless of what I wear, I get my upgrades based on my status. This question might be better answered by those who have no status and dress well or crappy.

shore9 Mar 17, 2006 4:49 pm


Originally Posted by yyznomad
Regardless of what I wear, I get my upgrades based on my status. This question might be better answered by those who have no status and dress well or crappy.

It shouldn't matter what one is wearing, they should get their upgrade based on their loyalty, which is how it works. If an agent was to refuse someone an upgrade based on their dress, yet they deserve the upgrade, that agent is not doing their job, and I hope that they get fired for that.

yyznomad Mar 17, 2006 4:51 pm


Originally Posted by shore9
It shouldn't matter what one is wearing, they should get their upgrade based on their loyalty, which is how it works. If an agent was to refuse someone an upgrade based on their dress, yet they deserve the upgrade, that agent is not doing their job, and I hope that they get fired for that.

What's your point? That's essentially what I just said, but the dress code part I am apathetic to.

cattle Mar 17, 2006 10:03 pm


Originally Posted by shore9
If an agent was to refuse someone an upgrade based on their dress, yet they deserve the upgrade, that agent is not doing their job, and I hope that they get fired for that.

Why do you always want everyone to get fired?

As per the discussion at hand. I have had plenty of Op-Ups in my day when wearing jeans and a button down ..... Attitude, more than dress, has always seemed to be the winning thing for me because it sure isn't my looks :p

GoldFlyer Mar 17, 2006 10:13 pm


Originally Posted by shore9
It shouldn't matter what one is wearing, they should get their upgrade based on their loyalty, which is how it works. If an agent was to refuse someone an upgrade based on their dress, yet they deserve the upgrade, that agent is not doing their job, and I hope that they get fired for that.

Ho hum. If an agent was casting about the boarding area and looking purely on the way people were dressed then I would doubt they would necessarily choose the "loyalty" character - they (loyal AC flyer) just might be the one in shorts and t-shirt on their way to HNL (like you perhaps) :)

So you have the poor bugger fired for not picking you and where then does that leave you next time?

CrampedInY Mar 17, 2006 10:54 pm

For my first ever AC op-up, I was wearing jeans, a t-shirt and sneakers, but I was clean :p. I also had no status. I probably received the upgrade because I wasn't screaming at the GA for the flight which was oversold in the back. Attitude is more important than appearances.

YOWkid Mar 18, 2006 10:27 am


Originally Posted by cattle
Why do you always want everyone to get fired?

As per the discussion at hand. I have had plenty of Op-Ups in my day when wearing jeans and a button down ..... Attitude, more than dress, has always seemed to be the winning thing for me because it sure isn't my looks :p

I think shore9 thinks that anyone who doesn't give what HE wants should be fired.


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