Go Back  FlyerTalk Forums > Miles&Points > Airlines and Mileage Programs > Air Canada | Aeroplan
Reload this Page >

AC cancels commissions for agents bookings

Community
Wiki Posts
Search

AC cancels commissions for agents bookings

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Dec 21, 2005, 4:36 pm
  #1  
Original Poster
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: San Francisco, CA USA
Programs: AA, AS, CX, BA, AC, DL
Posts: 322
AC cancels commissions for agents bookings

My Travel agent just sent me this. Not very nice AC.

Air Canada – the Grinch who stole commissions

ACTA is lambasting Air Canada for deciding to end cash rewards on domestic tickets as of Jan. 9 for travel agents who aren’t deemed preferred suppliers, effectively ending automatic financial rewards the carrier and some of its affiliates pay.

The pre-Christmas announcement by the airline on the travel agent section of its web site stated that five per cent cash rewards paid by Air Canada on Latitude and Tango Plus fares, plus the five per cent paid on group bookings, will end Jan. 9. Already scheduled for Dec. 31 was the rescinding of a five-per-cent commission on flight passes purchased in Canada and the US.

Air Canada spokeswoman Isabelle Arthur defended the move, telling Travel Courier her airline will continue to financially reward agencies it recognizes as preferred suppliers and who “demonstrate their support on a continued basis.”

It wasn’t immediately clear what criteria the airline will use before designating an agency a preferred supplier and what degree of bookings an agency will have to make with Air Canada to reach a level of support that wins financial compensation from the airline.

ACTA chair Mike Merrithew denounced Air Canada’s move in a statement, charging, “It is clear Air Canada does not want to recognize the value of travel agents and is expecting them to work on its behalf for no base compensation. By further eliminating travel agency cash rewards for booking air tickets, the carrier is trying to shift all distribution costs to the consumer.”

Merrithew also said Air Canada’s move “will penalize all smaller travel agencies. In fact, smaller agencies serving Air Canada travellers are providing a valuable service to the airline as well and should be compensated a reasonable fee for performing these services.”

More than 70 per cent of airline bookings in this country are made through agents, Merrithew continued, adding ACTA urged its members to support Air Canada when it was in bankruptcy protection, only to now learn that the “support is one-sided.”

Air Canada is now seeing record load factors, thanks in large part to agents, he added.

Arthur says Air Canada is “convinced the travel agent has an important role to play,” citing a travel agent-dedicated web site.

The decision to do away with automatic commissions results from a business strategy aimed at lowering costs, she adds.

Merrithew said airlines that “continue to recognize and compensate” agents can count on the support of ACTA members.

Meanwhile, Australian travel agents will be also feeling the pinch from Air Canada in the New Year. The carrier will be dropping its base commission rate from nine to seven per cent for all sales after Jan. 1, 2006 to offset “increasingly challenging conditions of strong international competition and rising fuel prices.” Jeannie Foster, Air Canada’s general manager Down Under was quoted as saying, “Travel agents remain an important distribution channel for Air Canada, and we are continuing to support them to the best of our abilities.”
brm744 is offline  
Old Dec 21, 2005, 5:58 pm
  #2  
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: YYC
Programs: AC SE100*1MM; Spire Ambassador
Posts: 1,341
what's wrong with this?

If an airline does not need any brokers to sell its seats, obviously why force it to hire brokers?

Traditionally airlines rely on travel agencies to sell seats and fill up flights. If the business model has changed, it does not rely on this sales channel, there is nothing wrong with it, right?
lespoir is offline  
Old Dec 21, 2005, 6:07 pm
  #3  
ABG
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Canada
Programs: Virtuoso TA, Four Seasons Pref Partner, Rosewood Elite TA, Ritz Carlton STARS TA
Posts: 4,737
Originally Posted by lespoir
what's wrong with this?

If an airline does not need any brokers to sell its seats, obviously why force it to hire brokers?

Traditionally airlines rely on travel agencies to sell seats and fill up flights. If the business model has changed, it does not rely on this sales channel, there is nothing wrong with it, right?
agents still handle the majority of AC's volume......
ABG is offline  
Old Dec 21, 2005, 6:29 pm
  #4  
A FlyerTalk Posting Legend
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: YEG
Programs: HH Silver
Posts: 56,446
Originally Posted by brm744
My Travel agent just sent me this. Not very nice AC.

Air Canada – the Grinch who stole commissions
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showt...=337055&page=5
tcook052 is offline  
Old Dec 21, 2005, 10:46 pm
  #5  
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: +61
Programs: SQ*PPS, QF-WP1 & LTG, VA-Gold, Marriott*LTT, Hilton*Gold, Accor*Platinum
Posts: 5,735
Originally Posted by ABG
agents still handle the majority of AC's volume......
Are business tickets that much more of a volume over leisure tickets (I believe the revenue is much larger... but is the volume difference truly significant?)
The next question that I have is what % of agency tickets come from the big three (BTI, Amex, Thomas Cook?) [Are these even the big 3?]

Last edited by shuuy; Dec 21, 2005 at 10:51 pm
shuuy is offline  
Old Dec 21, 2005, 11:35 pm
  #6  
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: World Nomad
Programs: AC Elite
Posts: 354
QF has just done the same down here in Aus so maybe AC's just following others in the industry.
gumbi_88 is offline  
Old Dec 22, 2005, 7:30 am
  #7  
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: 44*38.670N 63*37.548W
Programs: several
Posts: 1,870
I think the really unfortunate thing here for customers is that travellers that book thru agencies will face increased fees, service charges etc., just to cover the overhead of the TA. Booking through agencies still & always will have a great benefit, particularly in times of trouble, cnxls, or finding special or consolidator fares to Asia, Europe etc.

I feel worse for the agencies themselves, facing seriously diminished revenues...particularly when they only learn at Christmastime.

While I book "a to b" it's online usually, BUT only a TA (or some of us FT-ers!) can do the real challenging stuff. Most US & Canadian airlines have laid off tons of their res staff, leaving bookings largely to computers & web booking.

It's a shame that AC is doing this.
jral is offline  
Old Dec 22, 2005, 9:06 am
  #8  
ABG
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Canada
Programs: Virtuoso TA, Four Seasons Pref Partner, Rosewood Elite TA, Ritz Carlton STARS TA
Posts: 4,737
Originally Posted by YYCOllie
Are business tickets that much more of a volume over leisure tickets (I believe the revenue is much larger... but is the volume difference truly significant?)
The next question that I have is what % of agency tickets come from the big three (BTI, Amex, Thomas Cook?) [Are these even the big 3?]
Volume meaning the number of transactions and segements is generally higher on corporate travel than leisure. Think of it... YUL to YYZ to SFO TO DEN to YVR to YYZ to YUL, sounds like a pretty typical biz trip to me. While a leisure travel is YUL to FLL to YUL....

These moves don't really hurt the big 3 as you put it, minus TC which isn't really a big corporate player in Canada. According to " Tourism Plus " a french industry mag, the big 3 in Quebec are Amex, Vision 2000 and BTI.

I wish all TAs on this board a merry christmas... may all your waitlists clear!
ABG is offline  
Old Dec 22, 2005, 3:37 pm
  #9  
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Richmond, BC, Canada
Posts: 1,511
I wonder how much of the agency bookings are by "in-house" TA's (i.e. for larger corporations, agencies, associations, etc that have their own embedded TA) as opposed to retail TA's? And does the # quoted (70%) include on-line agencies?

There really has been a change in the business model and I'm sure it is and has been painful for many travel agencies. But, it would seem that the TA is now more of a service provider for the traveller than an agent for the airlines based upon the booking alternatives available that bypass the typical TA.
robsawatsky is offline  
Old Dec 22, 2005, 3:42 pm
  #10  
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: YYZ
Posts: 6,138
Originally Posted by robsawatsky
I wonder how much of the agency bookings are by "in-house" TA's (i.e. for larger corporations, agencies, associations, etc that have their own embedded TA) as opposed to retail TA's? And does the # quoted (70%) include on-line agencies?

If ABG says the Top 3 agencies in Quebec are AMEX, Vision 2000 and BTI, I would think the 70% percent national figure would have to include the online giants. BTI is the agency behind Expedia.ca.
YYZC2 is offline  


Contact Us - Manage Preferences - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

This site is owned, operated, and maintained by MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Designated trademarks are the property of their respective owners.