should North America be split up into different reward zones?
Apr 14, 2005, 5:07 pm
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should North America be split up into different reward zones?
I was just thinking about the different reward level redemptions and the respective zones, both Asia and Europe have 2 different zones, while North America has only one. I don't think that it's fair that a route like YVR - YHZ is 25K/40K, where as a route of similar length like YHZ - LHR is 60K/85K, more than twice the mileage for a route of similar length. 60K/85K is a fair reward level for a route like YVR - LHR, but for YHZ - LHR I don't think it is. Any thoughts as to whether or not North America should be split up into different zones, or perhaps even 4 quadrants?
Apr 14, 2005, 5:29 pm
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I think its hard enough for most to figure out FF programs so no need to make it more complex. YHZ-LHR may appear to be a bad choice but is the airfare for this really different than YYZ-LHR? It may be higher! YHZ-HNL is a bargain when compared to YVR-HNL. It comes out as a wash, leave things be. You can rest assured that whenever changes are made the traveller will surely not come out on top.
Apr 14, 2005, 5:49 pm
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Originally Posted by shore9
I was just thinking about the different reward level redemptions and the respective zones, both Asia and Europe have 2 different zones, while North America has only one. I don't think that it's fair that a route like YVR - YHZ is 25K/40K, where as a route of similar length like YHZ - LHR is 60K/85K, more than twice the mileage for a route of similar length. 60K/85K is a fair reward level for a route like YVR - LHR, but for YHZ - LHR I don't think it is. Any thoughts as to whether or not North America should be split up into different zones, or perhaps even 4 quadrants?
The true determinant of price is the old Keynesian Cross.
As for the multiple zones in NA, they already exist in the form of long haul and short haul zones.
Finally be careful what you ask for because you may find that by your logic YVR-LHR would increase to 75/100 from the current 60/80.
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Apr 14, 2005, 8:00 pm
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Originally Posted by Doc Fraud
There is no direct correlation between distance and airfares, so why should one expect a correlation between points and distance? After all points are just another form of currency.
The true determinant of price is the old Keynesian Cross.
As for the multiple zones in NA, they already exist in the form of long haul and short haul zones.
Finally be careful what you ask for because you may find that by your logic YVR-LHR would increase to 75/100 from the current 60/80.
DF
The true determinant of price is the old Keynesian Cross.
As for the multiple zones in NA, they already exist in the form of long haul and short haul zones.
Finally be careful what you ask for because you may find that by your logic YVR-LHR would increase to 75/100 from the current 60/80.
DF
Apr 14, 2005, 10:18 pm
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Originally Posted by brm744
Bad idea. Leave it alone. Europe & Asia each have over 20 countries. North America? - 2.
Mexico is generally considered to be part of North American too. You might however, get an argument about considering Central American or the Caribbean as part of North America.
Apr 14, 2005, 11:28 pm
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A program that does reward flights by distance is Asia Miles.
http://www.asiamiles.com/en/redeem/flights/charts/
In some cases, it works out better and in some cases, it works out worse using this system.
For system, ex-YVR
YVR-NRT or KIX only costs 45k for Econo and 60k for Business.
YVR-LHR also costs only 45k for Econo and 60k for Business.
Both are quite a bit less than what Aeroplan is charging
However,
YVR-SIN costs 90k for Econ (15k more than Aeroplan)
YVR-DFW costs 35k for Econ (10k more than Aeroplan)
YVR-MIA costs 45k for Econ (20k more than Aeroplan)
http://www.asiamiles.com/en/redeem/flights/charts/
In some cases, it works out better and in some cases, it works out worse using this system.
For system, ex-YVR
YVR-NRT or KIX only costs 45k for Econo and 60k for Business.
YVR-LHR also costs only 45k for Econo and 60k for Business.
Both are quite a bit less than what Aeroplan is charging
However,
YVR-SIN costs 90k for Econ (15k more than Aeroplan)
YVR-DFW costs 35k for Econ (10k more than Aeroplan)
YVR-MIA costs 45k for Econ (20k more than Aeroplan)
Apr 15, 2005, 5:32 am
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Originally Posted by shore9
I was just thinking about the different reward level redemptions and the respective zones, both Asia and Europe have 2 different zones, while North America has only one. I don't think that it's fair that a route like YVR - YHZ is 25K/40K, where as a route of similar length like YHZ - LHR is 60K/85K, more than twice the mileage for a route of similar length. 60K/85K is a fair reward level for a route like YVR - LHR, but for YHZ - LHR I don't think it is. Any thoughts as to whether or not North America should be split up into different zones, or perhaps even 4 quadrants?
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