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taupo Sep 23, 2003 9:20 pm

AC Exec First vs SQ Raffles
 
I will be completing a Circle Pacific via SIN onto YVR.
I have never flown SQ so I m unsure as to the comfort of the Spacebed, having read many posts in the SQ forum, I have deduced that is is uncomfortable for sitting, but comfortable for sleeping.

I have sampled AC's Intl Exec First many times and have been impressed so far. However if SQ is better, then I will definately prefer them.

I have a choice of SIN-ICN-YVR on SQ or SIN-HKG-YVR on SQ/AC. Mileage is the same +-5 miles. Which would you reccmend for comfort.

I will be able to sample SQ from AKL-SIN, so flying it to try it is not necessary.

Any advice, opinions will be greatly appreciated.


ACORD Sep 23, 2003 11:30 pm

SQ Raffles Class Benefits
I like the Spacebed -- beats AC International J IMHO
IFE way, way, way better (huge screen, VOD, tons of channels)
Cleaner, newer aircraft
Can earn PPS status and AP miles

AC Exec First Benefits
I think the food is better
Nicer amenity kits
Maybe more leg room but this depends on your seat. In either case it is ample


Service is a pretty subjective measure -- basically I don't really notice either


[This message has been edited by ACORD (edited 09-23-2003).]

LondonElite Sep 24, 2003 2:14 am

I've only tried the old Raffles, but I'd be pretty keen to give the new seats a try. Why not go with SQ and try something different...chances are you'll be doing a lot of flying in AC J seats anyway.

taupo Sep 24, 2003 11:34 am

Thanks for the tips, I will try SQ. I like what I read about Book the Cook, fillet mignion and lobster, mmmmmm

Andrew Yiu Sep 24, 2003 11:47 am

Miles related - you will get 25% Class of service premium if you're booked in SQ's J/D class while you don't if you're booked on AC's C class.

zrs70 Jan 22, 2004 12:45 pm


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by Empress:
Miles related - you will get 25% Class of service premium if you're booked in SQ's J/D class while you don't if you're booked on AC's C class.</font>

Is this true for earning UA MP miles as well?

Andrew Yiu Jan 22, 2004 1:12 pm

No. 25% for all Star Alliance airlines business class if credited to Mileage Plus except UA metal. On UA metal, you ean 50% COS bonus which counts towards status but only half of that will be redeemable.

airbus320 Jan 22, 2004 1:14 pm

I only flew SIN-KUL for one hour sitting in a spacebed. It was comfortable for that timeframe. I didn't notice anything major.

zhaobao Jan 22, 2004 8:56 pm


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by Empress:
No. 25% for all On UA metal, you ean 50% COS bonus which counts towards status but only half of that will be redeemable.</font>
OT: Is this the equivalent of AAdvantage where you get 150% status points but 125% miles ? If so, UA makes it sound so.... complicated...

YVR Cockroach Jan 22, 2004 10:36 pm


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by zhaobao:
Is this the equivalent of AAdvantage where you get 150% status points but 125% miles ?</font>
Actually, AA doesn't give status miles based on (paid) CoS (I've learned this painfully). The only thing a full/premium fare gives you towards status is points.

Ken hAAmer Jan 23, 2004 12:51 am


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Actually, AA doesn't give status miles based on (paid) CoS (I've learned this painfully).</font>
They do now!

(Actually, they always did. There were three streams you could take to status -- segments (gold and platinum only), points, or miles. The miles route just gave you 1 mile for 1 mile flown, but points came in 50%, 100%, 125% and 150% forms, depending on fare.)

?u@Now Jan 23, 2004 2:45 am

I vote you take Raffles. Flew it just last week from LHR to SIN and REALLY enjoyed the service and amenities. I thought the food was good with a Western and Asian option. The level of service by the flight attendants is awesome, they really take pride in the job they do and are very attentive.

LondonElite Jan 23, 2004 2:52 am


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by ?u@Now:
and are very attentive.</font>
and attractive!

taupo Jan 23, 2004 8:47 am

Due to time/logistics constraints and being able to get a cheaper fare, I will be doing the YVR-SYD on AC then onto AKL on NZ. SQ will have to wait for another day.


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