a319 forward seats
 

Others have posted that it's best to avoid the Y seats forward of the exit row on the A320 because of reduced seat pitch (you know, the seats specially reserved for AC's most frequent flyers http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/rolleyes.gif ). Does the same hold true for the A319?

[This message has been edited by Howard (edited 10-18-2003).]

[This message has been edited by Howard (edited 10-18-2003).]

Yes, to all AC 319/320, 762/763.

762 / 763s as well? i usually found row 12 to have more legroom...

I thought the 319 was exempt from this "less space for our premium flyers zone" idea and that it did not apply to 763's but that it did apply to 762's. Could be wrong though.

I wish I would have known about this site before I retired. I would have been out there for you actually measuring. (I rarely wasted my down time)

The seat pitch should be the same, but the fact that the seats at the exit row have more legroom may make the one forward look smaller.

The seat pitch is displayed right here,
http://www.aircanada.ca/services/business/if101a.html
and is totally controlled by the airlines, not the manufacturer. Air Canada prides itself on keeping the seat pitch competitive, so take along a tape measure and let Air Canada know if it is less. This seat already has limited recline, so it is already not as comfortable.

Thanks

Welcome to FT adamadam4 http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif

Better late than never http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/wink.gif

adamadam4, I did just that. I took a tape measure on board and measured.

On the domestic 767-200s (is that all of them now?), the seat pitch for at least some of the rows in the front Y cabin is 31". Everywhere else it is 32".

On the 2-class A320s, the seat pitch for Y seats infront of the emergency exits is also 31". Behind the emergency exit it is 32". The ex-Tango planes are 32" throughout.

I think the seat pitch is a uniform 32" on the A319s. I havn't measured them because I haven't noticed a difference. I'm 6'5"; for me, the extra inch lets me sit without splaying my legs to the side.

You are safe with the 767-300s -- they have 32" throughout.

I am surprised they let the tape measure through security ! http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/biggrin.gif



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PB

you would think if anything that these seats would have more legroom than the rest, because these are the seats that are primarily occupied by p/e/se holders, maybe if they gave them more room up front they would increase their business with the airline.

The best kept secret of seating on A320 is row 17. Rows 17 and before are blocked for P/E/SE, and of course, 12 (first row) and 15/16 (emergency exit rows) are assigned at airport. Which means only 13, 14 and 17 can be reserved at booking. For some reason, everybody goes for 13 and 14 with less legroom. Go for 17.

Welcome to the world of Air Canada http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/frown.gif

They squeezed an extra row in this mini-cabin between the two fixed walls.

AHA! So what has happened is that the new seat rows were added by jockeying the forward seats only...no doubt to make sure the allignment of the overwing windows remained the same, but at the expense of the supposed "good seats". Wrong-headed thinking.

I will ask why this was done and see what the answer is. (or rather see if I get an answer)

It happened when they took out J seats, they removed one row of J and inserted two rows of Y. Of course one row of J didn't leave enough room for two of Y, so they stole space back as far as the window rows (whose seats can't move).

According to AC's site, the A320 has 20 J seats where it used to have 24. The A319 still has 16 J seats so I'd guess its economy rows for premium customers are no worse than the rest.

It would have been nice if they'd taken out one row of J, put in one row of Y, and then space _out_ the premium seats (like UA's Premium Economy). But they didn't.

andrew

And in fact, www.aircanada.ca/services/business/if101a.html says this:

The seat width being narrower on everything but the A320 seems strange. And I guess the 763 is "n/a" because this is a North America chart and it only flies internationally?

andrew