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British MP stopped from boarding flight 'because name is Mohammad'

British MP stopped from boarding flight 'because name is Mohammad'

Old Oct 24, 2023, 2:28 pm
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British MP stopped from boarding flight 'because name is Mohammad'

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-...herts-67204679

Good to know that AC's crack security team is keeping Canada safe by keeping out the terrorists. Or at least those named Mohammad - because isn't every terrorist named Mohammad?
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Old Oct 24, 2023, 4:12 pm
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Mr Betts, who was travelling to Canada with other members from the House of Commons Levelling Up, Housing and Communities Committee, said Mr Yasin was questioned "for a considerable period" and he was told it was "because his name was Mohammad".
This feels like there's more to the story, whether good or bad.

For example, I'm a white guy with an Anglo name, and I was once detained at the Canadian border because there was a nationwide warrant out for the arrest of a man with my same first and last name, who was wanted for a double homicide. As soon as they confirmed I was a different person, I was free to go. This would be an example of a reasonable explanation for something like Mr. Betts describes.

However, it's also possible a check-in agent looked at his documents and said "your name's Mohammed, I bet that means you're not from here, better double-check your papers to make sure you're legal", which would of course be entirely inexcusable.

...and a hundred other possibilities in between.

My point is, we don't currently have enough information to tell reasonable behaviour from bad on the agent's part.
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Old Oct 24, 2023, 4:34 pm
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Originally Posted by YOWgary

My point is, we don't currently have enough information to tell reasonable behaviour from bad on the agent's part.
Isn't the preboarding immigration check carried over by some contract outfit rather than AC agents?

In any event, sounds like "because name is Mohammad" is likely either made up or someone's oversimplification. Most likely, his name mathched (more or less?) a name on a list. So that he had to be further screened.
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Old Oct 24, 2023, 4:43 pm
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Mohammed is one of the most common names on Earth. If any carrier had a blanket policy to hassle people with that name there would be multiple daily occurrences at every major airport. It is more likely that the passengers full name happened to coincide with that of someone who is actually on a watchlist of some kind. Nonetheless, very poor communication and customer service.
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Old Oct 24, 2023, 4:50 pm
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I'm also been hassled, but mostly just by Canadian customs. US immigration once because the agent didn't know that there could be more than one page of info on his screen and he had to page down!

However, I don't understand why an MP is going through normal security checks. I had the opportunity to travel with a higher up UK politician once and there were NO checks. Staff met us on the ramp in the new country, took our passports and we just walked straight past security and immigration, no questions asked. My passport and luggage were waiting in my hotel room when I got there.
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Old Oct 24, 2023, 5:10 pm
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Stopped from boarding probably isn't the right headline.

"Mr Yasin was only able to board the flight after proving he was an MP - and showing he had a visa to enter the country."
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Old Oct 24, 2023, 5:23 pm
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Originally Posted by tracon
Stopped from boarding probably isn't the right headline.

"Mr Yasin was only able to board the flight after proving he was an MP - and showing he had a visa to enter the country."
Or maybe

"Mr Yasin was only able to board the flight after proving he was an MP - and showing he had a visa to enter the country."
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Old Oct 24, 2023, 5:55 pm
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The entire article reeks of gas lighting, victimhood and DYKWIA while pretending to not be.

Mohammad Yasin, Labour MP for Bedford, was travelling with a group of MPs as part of a parliamentary delegation last week and said it was "humiliating"
You poor baby. You make a choice whether or not be humiliated. You are a politician, you should be tougher.

Labour MP Clive Betts, raising a point of order in the House of Commons, said the "racist and Islamophobic" treatment of his colleague Mr Yasin was "completely unacceptable".
Did the AC agent ever say we are questioning you because you are Islamic or brown? Of course not.

Mr Betts, who was travelling to Canada with other members from the House of Commons Levelling Up, Housing and Communities Committee, said Mr Yasin was questioned "for a considerable period" and he was told it was "because his name was Mohammad".
My 6'4" 200lb blue eyed blonde son named Alexander gets singled out often because his name combination matches an undesirable. It happens, get over it.
How long was a considerable period? Long enough to dig a little deeper and realise all was good.Mr Yasin was only able to board the flight after proving he was an MP - and showing he had a visa to enter the country.
More baloney. Proving you are an MP does not grant you entry (ask George Galloway), correct passport or entry documentation will.

Mr Yasin said: "It was stressful and humiliating to be singled out in such an aggressive way by immigration control, especially when travelling in a group as a representative of the British Parliament on long arranged committee business.
DYKWIA. The travel organiser should have had all this sorted ahead of time. If travelling on official business, a special/diplomatic passport would typically be used.
Is he upset with AC or immigration control?

Mr Betts, MP for Sheffield South East, said that similar issues were raised when he arrived at Montreal airport, Canada and when travelling back to the UK.A spokesman for Air Canada said: "Unfortunately Mr Yasin was designated for additional screening prior to his flight after a security check, but he was still able to travel as planned as he was quickly cleared.
It happens all the time, he was cleared quickly, just like my son is.

Another whiny toad that wasn't loved by his mother.
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Old Oct 24, 2023, 5:57 pm
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Notwithstanding I would not want to find myself in Mr Yasin's situation, there is definitely more here especially given the reference to more than a single event on his trip.
The bigger question is whether this was an AC or a bureaucracy issue further obfuscated by a foreign outstation's potential inability to properly apply regulations which are reported here repeatedly. If it was bureaucracy, was this on the Canadian or UK side? He was jumping hoops on UK soil.
As suggested above, given the ubiquity of the name I would bet that any widebody TATL flight into or out of Canada has a Mohammed on board, so the stated reason would be a source of multiple incidents daily and is nonsensical.
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Old Oct 24, 2023, 5:58 pm
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Wonder if his name was on the watch list or flagged as someone else.... AC wouldn't know he was an MP unless they were advised.
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Old Oct 24, 2023, 6:09 pm
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Originally Posted by jazzsax
AC wouldn't know he was an MP unless they were advised.
Presuming they were travelling business class and travel was arranged by a professional, AC should have been advised that a group of bloated DYKWIA's at the trough were on an under water fire fighting discovery tour, or a group of MPs were travelling to Canada.
AC would presumedly then made arrangements for them to check in at the SE area with a Concierge waiting for them and on them, before escorting them through security and onto the MLL where an area would have been set aside for them.

Someone has failed, but let's blame AC as that is a favourite Canadian pastime along with hockey and Tim Hortons.
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Old Oct 24, 2023, 6:12 pm
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Originally Posted by tracon
Stopped from boarding probably isn't the right headline.

"Mr Yasin was only able to board the flight after proving he was an MP - and showing he had a visa to enter the country."
Since when does a British national need a Visa to enter Canada? I thought that being part of the Commonwealth citizens of both countries are visa exempt.
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Old Oct 24, 2023, 6:15 pm
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Originally Posted by AJNEDC
Since when does a British national need a Visa to enter Canada? I thought that being part of the Commonwealth citizens of both countries are visa exempt.
They need a ETA - basically a tourist tax.
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Old Oct 24, 2023, 7:13 pm
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Sounds like he needs a Known Traveler Number / Canadian Traveler Number.
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Old Oct 24, 2023, 8:52 pm
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Originally Posted by Jagboi
They need a ETA - basically a tourist tax.
Yes, but that is not a visa.
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