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fishingcarlos Sep 22, 2022 4:09 pm

Hurricane Fiona impact on AC; travel waiver issued
 
Scheduled to fly from Dublin IE to Montreal, this Sat, 9-24. While other airports are listed on the AC alert page, YUL, so far, is not.

How soon would AC start delaying or cancelling flights? This is an every other day flight; would they make any effort to reschedule me to a diff flight same day? One that does not connect in Canada?

The Macker Sep 22, 2022 4:15 pm

I am not sure why MOntreal - 500 miles - from the Martines Atlantic Ocean would be impacted by Fiona. That is almost twice the distance from Dublin to London, it similar distance from Dublin to Paris.

fishingcarlos Sep 22, 2022 4:17 pm

True, but the plane must fly thru it to get there.

Adam Smith Sep 22, 2022 4:26 pm


Originally Posted by fishingcarlos (Post 34622565)
True, but the plane must fly thru it to get there.

No, it doesn't. Take a look at the tracks on FlightAware. You'll see that sometimes they fly over the island of Newfoundland, which is expected to be impacted by the storm, but other times they take a more northerly path over Labrador.

The aircraft operating that route are capable of far longer range than the relatively short YUL-DUB hop, so they can easily detour a few hundred miles to avoid the storm if need be.

fishingcarlos Sep 22, 2022 4:29 pm

Good to know, thanks for the clarification.

bakersdozen Sep 22, 2022 4:31 pm


Originally Posted by fishingcarlos (Post 34622565)
True, but the plane must fly thru it to get there.

They can fly over it.

bid.shader Sep 23, 2022 9:40 am


Originally Posted by fishingcarlos (Post 34622565)
True, but the plane must fly thru it to get there.

Is the incoming flight to Dublin (seems like it's AC804) cancelled? Assuming the plane is there, AC isn't going to want to leave an airframe in Dublin just sitting there very long and not being productive, so even if there was a delay I think they would still be there to fly you to Canada once conditions allowed...having said that, I think it looks pretty easy to divert around that storm on that route at that time and I wouldn't expect any major issues from that, per se.

smallmj Sep 23, 2022 3:44 pm


Originally Posted by fishingcarlos (Post 34622565)
True, but the plane must fly thru it to get there.

It will likely go well north of the storm.

WildcatYXU Sep 24, 2022 5:58 am


Originally Posted by bakersdozen (Post 34622594)
They can fly over it.

They could, but they absolutely won't. Risking a descend into a hurricane in case of some problem is unacceptable.

The Macker Sep 24, 2022 6:49 am

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...1154f5cc7c.png
So flight 803 left Dublin Sat 24th on time. It is taking a more northernly route than normal, by passing Fiona

bid.shader Sep 24, 2022 8:37 am


Originally Posted by WildcatYXU (Post 34626379)
They could, but they absolutely won't. Risking a descend into a hurricane in case of some problem is unacceptable.

Meanwhile...

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...faf8ffbf97.png

bakersdozen Sep 24, 2022 2:09 pm


Originally Posted by smallmj (Post 34625338)
It will likely go well north of the storm.

They totally do go over the outer bands. Just not around the eye. I’ve done it a few times in and out of Hong Kong with large typhoons. In the clouds at 39000 ft.

it's not even a big hurricane anymore. Post tropical.


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