Business class booking from Canada to JNB
Sep 19, 2022, 11:36 am
#1
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Business class booking from Canada to JNB
I am looking at booking flights YYT-JNB for May/June 2023 in business class. The AC website is showing some reasonable fares, but when you go to the flight selection page, for the best fares it shows that the XXX-JNB portion of the flight (where XXX is, e.g., FRA or ZRH) will be seated in Economy class. Anyone know why this is or if there is a way around it?
Thanks!
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Sep 19, 2022, 2:50 pm
#3
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But is it not likely that the OP’s “reasonable fares” are because the EU leg was pricing in Y?
So although a TA (or a call to AC) to likely book business (if seats available on those legs) the price would likely be less reasonable…
So although a TA (or a call to AC) to likely book business (if seats available on those legs) the price would likely be less reasonable…
Sep 19, 2022, 2:57 pm
#4
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I found P4 all the way through on some dates, but AC's site is not helpful with this of course.
Sep 19, 2022, 8:53 pm
#5
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There aren't a lot of days when P class is available in May/June from FRA or ZRH to JNB but availability on the AC codeshare on these segments seems to be even worse. You could call AC and ask if they can put you on the LH or LX flight number, if they are unwilling to do that you need a travel agent. The AC fare (PRCT87) certainly allows LH or LX flight numbers.
Sep 19, 2022, 10:42 pm
#7
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These P Fares are great. However, I can see over the past couple years that LX blocks P class quite a lot on this route. I know it sounds crazy but back in around 2014/2015 when "P" became a thing - - LX was not up to speed yet and the fares all mapped into D class on LX . . . . and . . these were upgradable to First with SAUA points. I will never forget the $1500 fare from YVR-ZRH-JNB where the two LX segments we flew in first . . .
Anyhow - on this - go find the flights with the P fare open in LH/LX and then work back from that. Also - these fares have historically allowed BA from LHR too - so check on that and I would expect that maps to "I" on BA.
Anyhow - on this - go find the flights with the P fare open in LH/LX and then work back from that. Also - these fares have historically allowed BA from LHR too - so check on that and I would expect that maps to "I" on BA.
Sep 20, 2022, 12:20 am
#8
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, unless they kick you out of J somewhere over the pacific and put you in PY.
Mar 27, 2024, 6:02 am
#9
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I know this has been discussed in the past, but is it still possible to book J seats for YYZ - EWR - JNB on AC ticket stock (taking an AC flight for YYZ-EWR and UA from EWR-JNB)? When I use Matrix I can find it in economy, but can't find J availability.
Mar 27, 2024, 9:33 am
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Which AC fares are you seeing that allow UA on the intercontinental segments?
Mar 27, 2024, 11:56 am
#11
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I've seen plenty of them offered up on the AC website for transatlantic flights to/from Europe where they have the profit sharing arrangement between AC/UA/LH but I suspect it doesn't extend to Africa.
Mar 27, 2024, 12:45 pm
#12
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These P Fares are great. However, I can see over the past couple years that LX blocks P class quite a lot on this route. I know it sounds crazy but back in around 2014/2015 when "P" became a thing - - LX was not up to speed yet and the fares all mapped into D class on LX . . . . and . . these were upgradable to First with SAUA points. I will never forget the $1500 fare from YVR-ZRH-JNB where the two LX segments we flew in first . . .
It's not a big deal to sit in the back on a European segment - it's the same seat and seat pitch after all - but can be annoying when LX agents are super strikt with the carry-on rules. My carry-on was 1kg too heavy on one of those mixed fares because I had wooden shoe trees and they made me repack my shoe trees from my garment bag to my briefcase. I doubt this would have happened with a booking in C.
Mar 27, 2024, 1:21 pm
#13
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Mar 28, 2024, 3:37 am
#14
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When I looked a few weeks ago, I saw options that allowed me to book a whole economy itinerary on an Air Canada ticket. This was not available through the AC site but only via Matrix. However, when I look now, I don't see these options for either economy or business.