About to hit SE for the first time, how did other SEs feel the first time?
#46
Join Date: Oct 2013
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It really does require a LOT of flying, specifically on AC metal, and if you're flying segments or standard fares you may as well forget it.
#47
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Toronto, ON, CANADA
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Spreadsheets. Helped that it was a milestone flight as well
#48
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: YLW
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Stop sandbagging and just do better,
#49
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#50
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I started my spreadsheet in an era where I needed MRs (or at least creative routings) to get status.
I find it to be a bit of a pain to deal with now, but maybe I'll be less annoyed when I'm not at 600k SQM by the end of January.
I had to do a creative routing (YYZ-ORD-IAH-NAS) in December 2020 to hit 250k SQM, but other than that, it's been years since it gave me anything useful.
There were years that I needed to pay really close attention to SQM, SQD, and even eUps. But with the 200k perpetual SQM rollover, the fact that 20k SQD is now inevitable for me, and the ability to do eUp requests at time of booking (so I always have an accurate counter) and the threshold eUps from the rollover SQM, there just isn't nearly as much use for me.
If you want to plan something special for a milestone (SE, MM, whatever), then it can be nice. But I hit MM on my couch, and SE just isn't special (to me) any more.
Even end-of-year stats on eUpgrades were interesting to me. But my last failed eUp was in 2018. I guess I track whether they cleared in advance or at the gate, but even that was 1 gate in 2022 (so far), 1 in 2021, 1 in 2020, 0 in 2019 (20 eUps, all cleared in advance, as a "basic" SE). Things are just easy and barely worth tracking any more. And most of those eUps were pre-MM and pre-credit card. So I'm even less likely to fail (or even go to the gate) now.
I find it to be a bit of a pain to deal with now, but maybe I'll be less annoyed when I'm not at 600k SQM by the end of January.
I had to do a creative routing (YYZ-ORD-IAH-NAS) in December 2020 to hit 250k SQM, but other than that, it's been years since it gave me anything useful.
There were years that I needed to pay really close attention to SQM, SQD, and even eUps. But with the 200k perpetual SQM rollover, the fact that 20k SQD is now inevitable for me, and the ability to do eUp requests at time of booking (so I always have an accurate counter) and the threshold eUps from the rollover SQM, there just isn't nearly as much use for me.
If you want to plan something special for a milestone (SE, MM, whatever), then it can be nice. But I hit MM on my couch, and SE just isn't special (to me) any more.
Even end-of-year stats on eUpgrades were interesting to me. But my last failed eUp was in 2018. I guess I track whether they cleared in advance or at the gate, but even that was 1 gate in 2022 (so far), 1 in 2021, 1 in 2020, 0 in 2019 (20 eUps, all cleared in advance, as a "basic" SE). Things are just easy and barely worth tracking any more. And most of those eUps were pre-MM and pre-credit card. So I'm even less likely to fail (or even go to the gate) now.
#51
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: YLW
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lol, remember last year when I booked 13 YOW-YVR flights in Flex for $136 and you correctly stated that those flights would be changed through YYZ/YUL. You predicted well my friend. You were spot on so I achieve even more as that extra 250 AP X 2 added up and that promotion sure helped a lot in early 2021. I did a lot of work on those weekend flights and Vancouver dinners. Flight crews thought I was from corporate as I was flying cross country every weekend. Maybe that is why I live alone
#52
Join Date: Nov 2021
Programs: Aeroplan Super Elite
Posts: 101
To OP's question though:
I hit 50K in 2019 the "hard way" (no rollover, no promos, etc.). Didn't do much flying over the pandemic, but they kept rolling over the status. Starting flying again in the second half of 2021, accumulated about 30,000 SQM. Then they rolled that over to 2022 because they also rolled over status, and then they rolled the SQM over again because I have an Aeroplan Black CC, so I started 2022 with about 60,000 SQM and $6000 SQD.
I did a bunch of domestic flights in Jan - Mar 2022 which got me to about 75,000 SQM with their double-SQM promo, then bought a paid-fare J to Europe to finish it off with the double-SQx promo, and hit 100K/SE for the first time.
I was excited at the time, mostly thinking that the Concierge service would make traveling so much nicer. Turns out, concierge service hasn't been doing so hot lately and have been pretty useless in most cases I needed them. The nice thing, though, has been the insane number of eUp credits, and the priority on the eUp waitlist. I haven't bought anything higher than a Y since my J Europe flight, but I also haven't flown anything less than J in 10+ trips since then
#53
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Moderator note: several posts on meal priority have been moved to the meal priority thread, while a post regarding historical flight records was also moved to a relevant thread.
#54
Join Date: May 2020
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lol, remember last year when I booked 13 YOW-YVR flights in Flex for $136 and you correctly stated that those flights would be changed through YYZ/YUL. You predicted well my friend. You were spot on so I achieve even more as that extra 250 AP X 2 added up and that promotion sure helped a lot in early 2021. I did a lot of work on those weekend flights and Vancouver dinners. Flight crews thought I was from corporate as I was flying cross country every weekend. Maybe that is why I live alone
#55
Join Date: Aug 2022
Location: YYZ
Programs: Aeroplan
Posts: 144
I do have some YYZ- US travel coming up for work and am super curious how YYZ-MUC-SFO in J can be gotten for cheaper than YYZ- SFO in flex
Picked up flying back up post pandemic. Never really focused on status but this year, given some trips, CC spend, I'm inching near 50K, with 1 more Euro trip and 1 Dubai trip tentatively scheduled for November.
#56
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But I've certainly done the MUC turn in P for ~800 USD. And I have spent close to that on Latitude FP credits for YYZ-SFO.
#57
Join Date: Aug 2022
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