Are AC's numerous promos since 2020 creating too many elites?
#197
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: SFO, JFK/LGA, SEA
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Ah, sorry to hear that as well...
(At least no one's complained about overcrowding in the Signature Suites as a result of the increase in elites!)
(At least no one's complained about overcrowding in the Signature Suites as a result of the increase in elites!)
#198
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: YYZ / LHR
Programs: AC SE100k
Posts: 262
I'm a walking example of how lounge overcrowding can be a catalyst for jumping ship. Until 5 years ago or so I was a loyal and longstanding BA Gold (most of my flying was and still is YYZ/LHR), and the huge BA lounge downgrade in YYZ (shut their own lounge and contracted Plaza Premium) and consequential lounge overcrowding was the straw that broke the camel's back and made me try out AC (which I had previously avoided like the plague due to some epically poor experiences in the 2000s). I've been AC SE ever since and BA has lost almost all of my business. Switching due to lounge overcrowding sounds petty, but travelling for work sucks and every incremental downgrade in the experience is noticed by those of us who travel regularly and adds up. In the end the lounge situation was just one factor in my decision to switch, but if it wasn't for the lounge overcrowding at BA I wouldn't have even given AC a chance.
#199
Join Date: Mar 2008
Programs: AC SE MM, Marriott Titanium
Posts: 904
Anecdotally, AC34 today has 3 x SMR + 3(?) SEs in the J cabin based on a glance at the meal selection list in the galley.
I wouldn't have expected such a large number of SEs coming back from Australia in the winter, especially with AC36 and AC38 running.
I wouldn't have expected such a large number of SEs coming back from Australia in the winter, especially with AC36 and AC38 running.
#200
Join Date: Feb 2020
Location: YYZ
Programs: AC SE MM, BW Diamond Select
Posts: 706
No one is complaining because one has to buy a business class fare JDCPZ or a Flexible Business Class ticket in order to enter the SS.
#201
Join Date: Jul 2018
Posts: 201
SMR = Special Meal Request?
#202
Moderator, Air Canada; FlyerTalk Evangelist
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Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: YYC
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#203
Join Date: Dec 2021
Location: London (the one in Canada!)
Programs: AC 50K, Marriot Titanium, Hilton Diamond, UA Silver
Posts: 60
I would like to add: AC Expects a loss in (Super) Elites in the next few years. I know because many of my SE coworkers that regularly spent $30k+/year on Air Canada have 0 business travel planned as companies shift to a virtual environment. None of my clients want to pay for someone to travel when they can meet over Zoom.
I know some of you will disagree with my sentiment, but I would like to mention that this is a frequent flyer forum and many of us (including myself) make up that travel through personal trips, but the same is not true for many others.
In the end, I think AC is trying to entice loyalty and make it seem "easier" to retain status so that more business travellers try to fly more for leisure (or do more MR's or whatever),
I know some of you will disagree with my sentiment, but I would like to mention that this is a frequent flyer forum and many of us (including myself) make up that travel through personal trips, but the same is not true for many others.
In the end, I think AC is trying to entice loyalty and make it seem "easier" to retain status so that more business travellers try to fly more for leisure (or do more MR's or whatever),
Last edited by YXU; Aug 27, 2022 at 8:19 pm
#204
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 767
I would like to add: AC Expects a loss in (Super) Elites in the next few years. I know because many of my SE coworkers that regularly spent $30k+/year on Air Canada have 0 business travel planned as companies shift to a virtual environment. None of my clients want to pay for someone to travel when they can meet over Zoom.
I know some of you will disagree with my sentiment, but I would like to mention that this is a frequent flyer forum and so many of (including myself) make up that travel through personal trips, but the same is not true for many others.
In the end, I think AC is trying to entice loyalty and make it seem "easier" to retain status so that more business travellers try to fly more for leisure (or do more MR's or whatever),
I know some of you will disagree with my sentiment, but I would like to mention that this is a frequent flyer forum and so many of (including myself) make up that travel through personal trips, but the same is not true for many others.
In the end, I think AC is trying to entice loyalty and make it seem "easier" to retain status so that more business travellers try to fly more for leisure (or do more MR's or whatever),
#205
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: Canada
Programs: AC SE100k, Marriott Titanium Elite, Accor Platinum, National Executive Elite
Posts: 349
#206
Join Date: Mar 2009
Programs: AC-SEMM, AA-Gold
Posts: 962
Thanks for the explanation of the SMR. On a recent flight home from Vancouver to Toronto, the in charge had no clue what that meant and asked me why Air Canada would put something like that next to my name. He said that he could tell I was super elite but did not know what the M & R stand for
#207
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Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Canada
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Priority checkin line this afternoon snakes out the glassed off area around the corner. 3 agents working.
After 2 mins of not moving went to regular checkin kiosks and bag drop. No wait, I guess since everyone is elite nowadays.
After 2 mins of not moving went to regular checkin kiosks and bag drop. No wait, I guess since everyone is elite nowadays.
#209
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: YUL
Programs: AC SE (*A Gold), Bonvoy Platinum Elite, Hilton Gold, Amex Platinum / AP Reserve, NEXUS, Global Entry
Posts: 5,691
The expensive ones: https://www.aircanada.com/ca/en/aco/...t-cards.html#/
#210
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 767