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Old Feb 18, 2022, 3:34 pm
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Originally Posted by marktwothousand
Wind advisory just issued into tomorrow and I have a YYZ to LAX AC flight. It is a must-make (I need to be in LA by Sunday or I’m messed). Do planes take off in wind advisories? Just how bad do winds have to be for the flight to be cancelled? A delay well into Saturday is fine.

right now they’re predicting 39kph winds with gusts of 59. It’s an A321. Full flight. Am I screwed?
Assuming the aircraft can takeoff into a headwind, those numbers should not pose an issue at all. If it is a cross wind, then there might be concerns. I’m no pilot, but I wouldn’t be concerned about winds of that speed. Landing is another issue and would be dependent on the aircraft type. Even then, the wind speeds you cite aren’t too bad all in all.
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Old Feb 18, 2022, 3:38 pm
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Originally Posted by arf04
Assuming the aircraft can takeoff into a headwind, those numbers should not pose an issue at all. If it is a cross wind, then there might be concerns. I’m no pilot, but I wouldn’t be concerned about winds of that speed. Landing is another issue and would be dependent on the aircraft type. Even then, the wind speeds you cite aren’t too bad all in all.
thanks for the opinion. Now I am just concerned my aircraft will even be here because it still has to leave Toronto tonight and go to Halifax where there is currently a storm, and then come back to Toronto For the morning Los Angeles flight.

I wonder if the plane gets stuck in Halifax will Air Canada find a replacement plane to take people to LA Saturday morning… Is that something that they do if they have enough notice? Or is pretty much the system based on a chain reaction
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Old Feb 18, 2022, 4:02 pm
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Originally Posted by marktwothousand
Wind advisory just issued into tomorrow and I have a YYZ to LAX AC flight. It is a must-make (I need to be in LA by Sunday or I’m messed). Do planes take off in wind advisories? Just how bad do winds have to be for the flight to be cancelled? A delay well into Saturday is fine.

right now they’re predicting 39kph winds with gusts of 59. It’s an A321. Full flight. Am I screwed?
What time is your flight? Winds are pretty consistent with 20-30 degree crosswind.

TAF CYYZ 182048Z 1821/1924 26012KT P6SM SCT030 TEMPO 1821/1824
BKN030
FM190200 22015G25KT P6SM FEW020 BKN080
FM190500 22015G30KT 6SM -SN OVC030 TEMPO 1905/1908 2SM -SN BLSN
OVC010
FM190800 22020G35KT 1 1/2SM -SN BLSN OVC020 PROB40 1909/1911
3/4SM -SHSN BLSN VV007
FM191100 26020G35KT P6SM BKN040
FM191600 27020G35KT P6SM -SHSN BKN030
FM191800 29018G32KT P6SM BKN040
BECMG 1921/1923 30015G25KT
RMK NXT FCST BY 190000Z=
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Old Feb 18, 2022, 4:04 pm
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Originally Posted by YVRtoYYZ
What time is your flight? Winds are pretty consistent with 20-30 degree crosswind.

TAF CYYZ 182048Z 1821/1924 26012KT P6SM SCT030 TEMPO 1821/1824
BKN030
FM190200 22015G25KT P6SM FEW020 BKN080
FM190500 22015G30KT 6SM -SN OVC030 TEMPO 1905/1908 2SM -SN BLSN
OVC010
FM190800 22020G35KT 1 1/2SM -SN BLSN OVC020 PROB40 1909/1911
3/4SM -SHSN BLSN VV007
FM191100 26020G35KT P6SM BKN040
FM191600 27020G35KT P6SM -SHSN BKN030
FM191800 29018G32KT P6SM BKN040
BECMG 1921/1923 30015G25KT
RMK NXT FCST BY 190000Z=
8:15 AM Sat.

the plane keeps getting delayed from YYZ-YHZ-YYZ tonight
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Old Feb 18, 2022, 4:10 pm
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The A321 max crosswind component is 35kts. Wind will be 26020G35 kts. The aircraft can handle it.
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Old Feb 18, 2022, 4:12 pm
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Originally Posted by YVRtoYYZ
The A321 max crosswind component is 35kts. Wind will be 26020G35 kts. The aircraft can handle it.
thanks. Now Lez just hope it even makes it from Halifax tonight where there’s even worst conditions lol
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Old Feb 18, 2022, 5:04 pm
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Originally Posted by marktwothousand
thanks. Now Lez just hope it even makes it from Halifax tonight where there’s even worst conditions lol
Since you are flying from YYZ, there will likely be some other plane around that they can use if your plane gets stuck in YHZ. There may be a delay, but I'd be surprised if they have to cancel your flight.

Also, smaller airports handle storms much better than YYZ does (it's much easier to get 3 planes out than 60), so it's quite likely that your plane will make it to YYZ from YHZ eventually.

I'd relax and not worry.

Edited to add: Your flight to LAX is almost completely sold out tomorrow: Y1 and every other bin 0. They are not going to cancel a full A321. If they are short a plane, they will cancel another flight and use that plane for LAX.
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Old Feb 19, 2022, 2:42 am
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Originally Posted by arf04
Assuming the aircraft can takeoff into a headwind, those numbers should not pose an issue at all. If it is a cross wind, then there might be concerns. I’m no pilot, but I wouldn’t be concerned about winds of that speed. Landing is another issue and would be dependent on the aircraft type. Even then, the wind speeds you cite aren’t too bad all in all.
A321 max headwind component is 50kts. As an example, EGLL had to put a ground stop in place on 18FEB22 as the headwind component exceeded aircraft published capabilities.
As for today, winds are well within operating capability. With that being said, CZYZ will likely implement some flow controls and delays can be expected as some aircraft will have to go around and get re-sequenced.
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Old Feb 19, 2022, 1:08 pm
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Been stuck in YYZ since 11:00 this morning. The gate agent stays maintenance issue and we can see that, but AC official statement is the weather? Delays are in 1-hour blocks so you can't just leave for a good spell. the AC Cafe is closed due to a water leak so it's back upstairs and then back down to D24. We are all excited to board at 2:45, they are fuelling the aircraft and then.....Crew Change time, delayed to 16:30! I did AC a favour by checking in my bag as I figure it would be a busy weekend, free up bin space for the kettles......now they won't move me as they don't have the resources. My gut told me after the first delay to fly through YEG/YXE or even YVR and backtrack to YYC, but today I believed in AC........ Now I sit in the MLL with many unhappy people all waiting for delayed flights!
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Old Feb 19, 2022, 1:09 pm
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Originally Posted by vancouver25k
AC 128 (arriving 6:12+1) still claims to be on time.
I didn't have to worry about 128. My connecting 7715, on the other hand... scheduled 08:15 departed 12:25.

Gate frozen shut. Then some aircraft doors frozen shut. Then snow in engines that needed to be shoveled out, and there was only one crew at YYZ doing that, and they had just started a 45 minute break when they were called. Then the usual deicing. Those were the delays they had communicated to us. We boarded after the door issues were resolved.
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Old Feb 19, 2022, 1:13 pm
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Originally Posted by HerpaYvr
Been stuck in YYZ since 11:00 this morning. The gate agent stays maintenance issue and we can see that, but AC official statement is the weather? Delays are in 1-hour blocks so you can't just leave for a good spell.
My 7715 experience yesterday was the same. Yes ultimately the delays could be attributed to weather, but not identifying all the snags and addressing them simultaneously is an operational issue. Still, the stated delay is weather. And incremental delays of less than an hour so I didn't even go back to the lounge.

Good luck!
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