AC Verification of Canadian Vaccine Requirement for Air Travel (begins October 30)
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Could end up to be more than once with the adoption of booster jabs. Israel, for example, recently announced that vaccine status would be considered “stale dated” after 6 months. I believe Austria and Croatia have taken the same position. Should this happen, I hope there’s some easy way to update vaccine status because the necessity of boosters seems very likely.
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I certainly hope vaccine info can be uploaded in advance. Something like what we already do with Nexus. Surely the program could then do the math (not AC staff). Otherwise, particularly during holiday times, I foresee long wait times even for status pax.
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In the event the Canadian National vaccine passport doesn't come by October 30th, perhaps the no brainer way would be for Air Canada and Westjet to give their airport staff tablets pre-loaded with the QR code verification apps for each province in Canada (and perhaps a few other jurisdictions such as the EU verification apps)?
This way, they can at least verify the vaccine documentation presented by the majority of Canadians(and other QR code jurisdiction)?
Example : If someone presents a QR code from BC, scan using the BC VaccineCard Verifier app, if someone presents a QR code from Quebec, scan using the VaxiCode Verif app, if someone presents a EU Digital Covid Certification, scan using the TAC Verif app (or any other EU verification app).
This way, they can at least verify the vaccine documentation presented by the majority of Canadians(and other QR code jurisdiction)?
Example : If someone presents a QR code from BC, scan using the BC VaccineCard Verifier app, if someone presents a QR code from Quebec, scan using the VaxiCode Verif app, if someone presents a EU Digital Covid Certification, scan using the TAC Verif app (or any other EU verification app).
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In the event the Canadian National vaccine passport doesn't come by October 30th, perhaps the no brainer way would be for Air Canada and Westjet to give their airport staff tablets pre-loaded with the QR code verification apps for each province in Canada (and perhaps a few other jurisdictions such as the EU verification apps)?
This way, they can at least verify the vaccine documentation presented by the majority of Canadians(and other QR code jurisdiction)?
Example : If someone presents a QR code from BC, scan using the BC VaccineCard Verifier app, if someone presents a QR code from Quebec, scan using the VaxiCode Verif app, if someone presents a EU Digital Covid Certification, scan using the TAC Verif app (or any other EU verification app).
This way, they can at least verify the vaccine documentation presented by the majority of Canadians(and other QR code jurisdiction)?
Example : If someone presents a QR code from BC, scan using the BC VaccineCard Verifier app, if someone presents a QR code from Quebec, scan using the VaxiCode Verif app, if someone presents a EU Digital Covid Certification, scan using the TAC Verif app (or any other EU verification app).
Mind you, I can always show my French bar code even though it is based upon Alberta vaccinations. :-).
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I received my EU Digital Covid Certificate from France based on BC vaccinations the day after I was supposed to arrive in France (had to cancel my trip for other reasons). Perhaps I can use that as it looks more "official"?
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I'm sure Mark Nasr and their digital team have something in the works since he alluded to uploading you vaxx status for certain international destinations.
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Fortunately domestic flyers will only have to show their vaccination papers (and by month's end all but a couple of provinces will have QR coded "passports") and not COVID tests so it could go faster, but AC must staff up the front line at check-ins since the kiosks won't be of much use to confirm vaccination status. I'm sure we'll see a new page on. the OLCI process to indicate our status, but this still must be confirmed in person, either at airport check-in or at the gate. And we all know how understaffed gates have also become.
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i heard this is merely being implemented as a simple declaration click at first as there is no infrastructure for airlines to check the validiity of the passports anyway.
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I got my ADOC on my most recent flight by "signing" the ATTS.
Agent said it was because I declared in the attestation that I had a negative test.
So.. ."AI" ... sure. I've had better luck getting ADOC by not uploading my test (or showing it to anyone) than I have by uploading it.
Agent said it was because I declared in the attestation that I had a negative test.
So.. ."AI" ... sure. I've had better luck getting ADOC by not uploading my test (or showing it to anyone) than I have by uploading it.
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In the event the Canadian National vaccine passport doesn't come by October 30th, perhaps the no brainer way would be for Air Canada and Westjet to give their airport staff tablets pre-loaded with the QR code verification apps for each province in Canada (and perhaps a few other jurisdictions such as the EU verification apps)?
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The data isnt "validated" per se - rather AI scans the paper work for the right details. There isnt a current system to check it against any lists of vaccine rolls from provinces. Internationally, its even more difficult. There is no way that AC (or the provinces, etc) will get access to American vaccine rolls. This just presents a logistical challenge that isnt about provincial systems. AC is a global airline.....there will never be a fool proof way to verify ever person agains a secret government list of vaccine rolls for every government. There is no way at least half of the USA will allow the lists be used.....so does AC not accept anyone that was vaccinated in say FL or TX?
They are basically doing the same thing as AC's "AI" system - yup looks like some sort of vaccine certificate and yup the name matches.
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And you seriously think that an employee (or third party) who asks for your vaccine information when you check in or at the gate validates that what you show them is on a government database?
They are basically doing the same thing as AC's "AI" system - yup looks like some sort of vaccine certificate and yup the name matches.
They are basically doing the same thing as AC's "AI" system - yup looks like some sort of vaccine certificate and yup the name matches.
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YVR ,YUL and YYZ lounges were all at capacity yesterday, lineups to get in.
I was stopped at elevator at YYZ lounge. Staff was telling us no room available and would lose their liquor license if we stayed. Sheesh!!
Went to Priority Lounge with no issues but same requests for ID and proof of vaccination
I was stopped at elevator at YYZ lounge. Staff was telling us no room available and would lose their liquor license if we stayed. Sheesh!!
Went to Priority Lounge with no issues but same requests for ID and proof of vaccination