Schedule Updates - frequency changes, resume/suspend routes, etc (Aug 2021 onwards)
Nov 19, 2021, 9:29 am
#151
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: YYZ
Programs: Air Canada 50K, Marriott Gold,
Posts: 206
I am looking at flights between YYZ and OGG January 15-22, 2022. For some reason, the direct flights on those days have disappeared from AC.com and when I pull them on EF all classes are showing 0 seats for sale despite the flights not seemingly being full (there was lots of space just days ago and seat map is open in all classes (I know, not a TRUE indication but still). Anyone know why these flights may be getting proactively blocked off from new bookings?
AC 531 YYZ: 01/15/22 5:10 PM OGG - 01/15/22 10:14 PM 789
J0 C0 D0 Z0 P0 R0 I0 O0 E0 N0 Y0 B0 M0 U0 H0 Q0 V0 W0 G0 S0 T0 L0 A0 K0 X0 F0
AC 530 OGG: 01/22/22 11:55 PM YYZ - 01/23/22 1:27 PM 789
J0 C0 D0 Z0 P0 R0 I0 O0 E0 N0 Y0 B0 M0 U0 H0 Q0 V0 W0 G0 S0 T0 L0 A0 K0 X0 F0
AC 531 YYZ: 01/15/22 5:10 PM OGG - 01/15/22 10:14 PM 789
J0 C0 D0 Z0 P0 R0 I0 O0 E0 N0 Y0 B0 M0 U0 H0 Q0 V0 W0 G0 S0 T0 L0 A0 K0 X0 F0
AC 530 OGG: 01/22/22 11:55 PM YYZ - 01/23/22 1:27 PM 789
J0 C0 D0 Z0 P0 R0 I0 O0 E0 N0 Y0 B0 M0 U0 H0 Q0 V0 W0 G0 S0 T0 L0 A0 K0 X0 F0
Nov 19, 2021, 9:41 am
#152
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Canada's worst airport....YYJ
Programs: AC: E75K, Marriott :Titanium, National: EXEC ELITE
Posts: 596
This is going to be a fun one...my flight to HUX in early January, which has been zeroed out for 2 weeks, just got downgauged from a Rouge 321 to the Rouge 319, which is a reduction of 60 Y seats. Maybe this was a planned RM move, and they zeroed out well in advance of the downgauge, but long experience with AC has taught me this is likely not the case, and they will be dealing with a massive overbook on day of departure, to a destination where they offer service twice weekly. Some fun times ahead...
I'll have my offer of $1,500 in VDB cash, plus a new route (in J of course) through MEX all mapped out...
I'll have my offer of $1,500 in VDB cash, plus a new route (in J of course) through MEX all mapped out...
Nov 19, 2021, 10:01 am
#153
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Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: SFO
Programs: AC SE MM, BA Gold, SQ Silver, Bonvoy Tit LTG, Hyatt Glob, HH Diamond
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I wouldn't count on it.
A while back, they downgauged "all" the noon SFO-YYZ from 789 to 223, making mine on December 18th overbooked by ~25.
Then they selectively upgauged certain flights to a 7M8, fixing that problem.
I think the system is doing large sweeps of gauge changes, and then people are fixing the big problems sometime later.
A while back, they downgauged "all" the noon SFO-YYZ from 789 to 223, making mine on December 18th overbooked by ~25.
Then they selectively upgauged certain flights to a 7M8, fixing that problem.
I think the system is doing large sweeps of gauge changes, and then people are fixing the big problems sometime later.
Nov 19, 2021, 10:48 am
#154
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Canada's worst airport....YYJ
Programs: AC: E75K, Marriott :Titanium, National: EXEC ELITE
Posts: 596
I wouldn't count on it.
A while back, they downgauged "all" the noon SFO-YYZ from 789 to 223, making mine on December 18th overbooked by ~25.
Then they selectively upgauged certain flights to a 7M8, fixing that problem.
I think the system is doing large sweeps of gauge changes, and then people are fixing the big problems sometime later.
A while back, they downgauged "all" the noon SFO-YYZ from 789 to 223, making mine on December 18th overbooked by ~25.
Then they selectively upgauged certain flights to a 7M8, fixing that problem.
I think the system is doing large sweeps of gauge changes, and then people are fixing the big problems sometime later.
Who am I kidding? I’m not that lucky…
Nov 19, 2021, 3:38 pm
#155
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: YOW
Programs: AC*SEMM, *G, Hilton Diamond, Marriott Gold
Posts: 897
Although it is still showing in ExpertFlyer on the timetable, it appears the flights have been zeroed out until February 12 (ie: first flight with seats is Feb. 12)
Nov 19, 2021, 7:36 pm
#156
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 139
Such a bummer. I booked a weeklong trip in part because of the non-stop
Nov 20, 2021, 2:32 pm
#157
Suspended
Join Date: Sep 2014
Programs: AC SE100K-1MM, NH, DL, AA, BA, Global Entry/Nexus, APEC..
Posts: 18,877
Nov 20, 2021, 3:01 pm
#158
Join Date: Apr 2018
Location: Ontario Canada
Programs: Air Canada 50K - Hilton Diamond - Marriott Platinum
Posts: 282
777-300 upgrading AC 832/833 YUL-BRU makes sense if they don't want to operate the YYZ flight since they only were planning so start it in may 2020 with the 787-8 after SN changed there 330 to YUL and since they don't seem to be planning a comeback yet. nice seeing the longer flights to the west getting rid of the 320's looks like they will just be used for even shorter hops like YYZ-YOW
Nov 20, 2021, 4:14 pm
#159
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Western Canada
Programs: Air Canada SE, Marriott Platinum
Posts: 331
I fly YEG - YUL alot and there's only 1 direct a day.
Pre COVID there used to be at least 2, sometimes 3. Anyone know if there's any talk of increasing routes like these or is it 'wait and see what traffic volume does and how AC responds' kind of scenario?
Anyone see any good indicators of increasing (domestic) flight routes lately?
Pre COVID there used to be at least 2, sometimes 3. Anyone know if there's any talk of increasing routes like these or is it 'wait and see what traffic volume does and how AC responds' kind of scenario?
Anyone see any good indicators of increasing (domestic) flight routes lately?
Nov 20, 2021, 4:33 pm
#160
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Nov 22, 2021, 11:20 am
#161
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Canada
Programs: Aeroplan 50K, Bonvoy Titanium, IHG Diamond, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 292
YVR-HKG AC7 with Crew Change in ICN
For the AC7 flight from YVR to HKG which stops in ICN. How much time do passengers have off the aircraft in ICN? Do passengers get to roam around the airport?
Nov 22, 2021, 11:37 am
#162
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: SFO
Programs: *G^2, Bonvoyed, NEXUS
Posts: 3,513
0 minutes off the aircraft. Passengers remain on board.
Nov 22, 2021, 12:08 pm
#163
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: YOW
Programs: AC SE, FOTSG Platinum
Posts: 5,726
This may be the source of OP's question. I received the same note when booking AC7 the other day.
Nov 22, 2021, 6:29 pm
#164
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Canada
Programs: Aeroplan 50K, Bonvoy Titanium, IHG Diamond, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 292
Nov 22, 2021, 7:00 pm
#165
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@loun80
Some additional info for you where you can calculate how much time AC 8 is on the ground in ICN.
This is from AC's Flight Status page for the Nov 21 AC 8. You can see what time it arrived in ICN from HKG and then what time it departed ICN for YVR.
This is from FR24. Again, you can see all of the November AC 8 flights so far, what time they arrived in ICN and then departed ICN for YVR.
Some additional info for you where you can calculate how much time AC 8 is on the ground in ICN.
This is from AC's Flight Status page for the Nov 21 AC 8. You can see what time it arrived in ICN from HKG and then what time it departed ICN for YVR.
This is from FR24. Again, you can see all of the November AC 8 flights so far, what time they arrived in ICN and then departed ICN for YVR.