Complex Multi-City Points Bookings, Stopovers & Adding Segments (Aeroplan 2.0)
Sep 22, 23, 1:03 pm
#1936
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 286
Skipping Leg
I have a long and somewhat complex itinerary that was booked at good rates but because of unavoidable AC legs gets dynamically repriced on any change. I need to move a VA inter Australia 1hr flight by a couple days but it moves the price of the trip out by over 300,000 points on a priority award booking so it's a non-starter. Will AC/United, who are operating the segments post that one, be notified if I skip that segment (and rebook it independently for the desired date) so they will cancel the rest of the itinerary or is there some sort of automated system that will cancel the rest of the legs?
Thanks
Thanks
Sep 22, 23, 3:53 pm
#1937
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Join Date: May 2015
Location: BOS, YVR, ZRH
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I have a long and somewhat complex itinerary that was booked at good rates but because of unavoidable AC legs gets dynamically repriced on any change. I need to move a VA inter Australia 1hr flight by a couple days but it moves the price of the trip out by over 300,000 points on a priority award booking so it's a non-starter. Will AC/United, who are operating the segments post that one, be notified if I skip that segment (and rebook it independently for the desired date) so they will cancel the rest of the itinerary or is there some sort of automated system that will cancel the rest of the legs?
Thanks
Thanks
Your best/only hope is a schedule change and asking for a free change to another date that has availability.
Sep 25, 23, 6:14 pm
#1938
Join Date: Jan 2021
Programs: Aeroplan
Posts: 441
I'm trying to book a once in a lifetime retirement trip for my parents which is turning to be quite a problem with all the partner airline issues these days. I managed to book them in J on YYZ-CPH-SIN (stopover)-HKT. After spending some time in Asia, they will take a cruise from Singapore to Sydney.
I now need to book their return flight from Australia. I see flights from many Australian cities to LHR via SIN with SQ and I see plenty of flights from LHR to YYZ with AC but the website will not let me book this itinerary using the stopover option. They would like to stop in Europe to break up the journey. Should I bother calling in and hope an agent can make it work or is this an issue of married segments logic?
I now need to book their return flight from Australia. I see flights from many Australian cities to LHR via SIN with SQ and I see plenty of flights from LHR to YYZ with AC but the website will not let me book this itinerary using the stopover option. They would like to stop in Europe to break up the journey. Should I bother calling in and hope an agent can make it work or is this an issue of married segments logic?
Sep 25, 23, 7:06 pm
#1939
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I'm trying to book a once in a lifetime retirement trip for my parents which is turning to be quite a problem with all the partner airline issues these days. I managed to book them in J on YYZ-CPH-SIN (stopover)-HKT. After spending some time in Asia, they will take a cruise from Singapore to Sydney.
I now need to book their return flight from Australia. I see flights from many Australian cities to LHR via SIN with SQ and I see plenty of flights from LHR to YYZ with AC but the website will not let me book this itinerary using the stopover option. They would like to stop in Europe to break up the journey. Should I bother calling in and hope an agent can make it work or is this an issue of married segments logic?
I now need to book their return flight from Australia. I see flights from many Australian cities to LHR via SIN with SQ and I see plenty of flights from LHR to YYZ with AC but the website will not let me book this itinerary using the stopover option. They would like to stop in Europe to break up the journey. Should I bother calling in and hope an agent can make it work or is this an issue of married segments logic?
Also, if LHR-YYZ is on AC, it will be impossible to predict how much SYD-LHR-YYZ is gonna cost as including any AC segments turns the entire itinerary to dynamic pricing. I predict it will be very expensive, though.
Sep 25, 23, 7:50 pm
#1940
Join Date: Jan 2021
Programs: Aeroplan
Posts: 441
Is the SYD-Europe-YYZ itinerary more than double the mileage of SYD-YYZ direct? If yes, it won't be bookable as one itinerary.
Also, if LHR-YYZ is on AC, it will be impossible to predict how much SYD-LHR-YYZ is gonna cost as including any AC segments turns the entire itinerary to dynamic pricing. I predict it will be very expensive, though.
Also, if LHR-YYZ is on AC, it will be impossible to predict how much SYD-LHR-YYZ is gonna cost as including any AC segments turns the entire itinerary to dynamic pricing. I predict it will be very expensive, though.
Sep 26, 23, 8:59 am
#1942
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Sep 26, 23, 11:02 am
#1943
Join Date: Jan 2021
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Sep 26, 23, 11:19 am
#1944
Join Date: Feb 2015
Posts: 1,579
Might be cheaper to just buy the TYO-PVG J leg separately, presuming you paid the minimum for the AC PY leg.
Sep 26, 23, 6:00 pm
#1945
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: YYZ
Programs: Marriott Titanium Elite, Accor Diamond, AC 35K, National Exec, Hertz Gold
Posts: 347
I'm trying to book a once in a lifetime retirement trip for my parents which is turning to be quite a problem with all the partner airline issues these days. I managed to book them in J on YYZ-CPH-SIN (stopover)-HKT. After spending some time in Asia, they will take a cruise from Singapore to Sydney.
I now need to book their return flight from Australia. I see flights from many Australian cities to LHR via SIN with SQ and I see plenty of flights from LHR to YYZ with AC but the website will not let me book this itinerary using the stopover option. They would like to stop in Europe to break up the journey. Should I bother calling in and hope an agent can make it work or is this an issue of married segments logic?
I now need to book their return flight from Australia. I see flights from many Australian cities to LHR via SIN with SQ and I see plenty of flights from LHR to YYZ with AC but the website will not let me book this itinerary using the stopover option. They would like to stop in Europe to break up the journey. Should I bother calling in and hope an agent can make it work or is this an issue of married segments logic?
My parents just left on a cruise from Vancouver to Sydney and then all around Australia. I booked their return for them on Etihad SYD-AUH-YYZ in J back when they had good availability... was 110k each.
Sep 26, 23, 6:55 pm
#1946
Join Date: Jan 2021
Programs: Aeroplan
Posts: 441
If you can see the segments separately, they're not married. Likely a mileage issue or just the website. Your best bet is calling in and seeing if the agent can put the 2 together. What dates are you looking for the return flight around?
My parents just left on a cruise from Vancouver to Sydney and then all around Australia. I booked their return for them on Etihad SYD-AUH-YYZ in J back when they had good availability... was 110k each.
My parents just left on a cruise from Vancouver to Sydney and then all around Australia. I booked their return for them on Etihad SYD-AUH-YYZ in J back when they had good availability... was 110k each.
Oct 1, 23, 1:06 pm
#1947
Join Date: Sep 2023
Location: YYZ
Posts: 13
Skipping last leg - any repercussions?
I'm planning an itinerary ending at YYZ but all my preferred routing exceeds (just slightly) the MPM. I'm thinking of adding a short flight from YYZ to stretch the MPM, and just skip the flight. I know I shouldn't be doing this often as it's probably against the T&C.
My question is - will Air Canada/Aeroplan take note of this and possibly put my account in jeopardy? Also, if I just leave the airport at YYZ, will they be looking for me to board my next flight? Thanks!
My question is - will Air Canada/Aeroplan take note of this and possibly put my account in jeopardy? Also, if I just leave the airport at YYZ, will they be looking for me to board my next flight? Thanks!
Oct 1, 23, 4:32 pm
#1948
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Only cautions are bags, and a possible reroute to final destination avoiding YYZ.
Try it to YYZ only tho, MPM is not really a thing.
Oct 1, 23, 7:22 pm
#1949
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Join Date: May 2015
Location: BOS, YVR, ZRH
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I'm planning an itinerary ending at YYZ but all my preferred routing exceeds (just slightly) the MPM. I'm thinking of adding a short flight from YYZ to stretch the MPM, and just skip the flight. I know I shouldn't be doing this often as it's probably against the T&C.
My question is - will Air Canada/Aeroplan take note of this and possibly put my account in jeopardy? Also, if I just leave the airport at YYZ, will they be looking for me to board my next flight? Thanks!
My question is - will Air Canada/Aeroplan take note of this and possibly put my account in jeopardy? Also, if I just leave the airport at YYZ, will they be looking for me to board my next flight? Thanks!
Oct 1, 23, 7:34 pm
#1950
Join Date: Sep 2023
Location: YYZ
Posts: 13
So I'd get (8256 - 7836) x 2 = 840 extra miles. YYZ - ORD is only 436 mi.
I'm just extremely unlucky in this case as they couldn't price to YYZ because it's 21 miles over the x2 distance.
