Complex Multi-City Bookings, Stopovers & Adding Segments After Booking (Aeroplan 2.0)
May 24, 22, 8:25 am
#826
Join Date: Sep 2005
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Originally Posted by tylerc
The agents can book it, but it prices as 2 separate flights when YYZ LIS FAO is clearing within the 60k mileage range, so it should be a fixed rate partner redemption to Europe under 4k miles.
If I stopped for 24hrs a d paid the 5k stop fee there wouldn't be a charge for the 2nd flight, according to one agent. Whick makes sense. Partner awards are based on total distance flown. One agent referred to piecing together segments as cherry picking...as far as I can tell AC is not playing by their program rules.
If I stopped for 24hrs a d paid the 5k stop fee there wouldn't be a charge for the 2nd flight, according to one agent. Whick makes sense. Partner awards are based on total distance flown. One agent referred to piecing together segments as cherry picking...as far as I can tell AC is not playing by their program rules.
May 24, 22, 8:57 am
#827
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 740
Originally Posted by rankourabu
Married segments would mean one is not available without booking the other with it.
So a to c via b is good but a to b or b to c alone is not.
Seems like in this case both segments are available but cant be married by AE for some reason.
OP check if the itinerary comes up via other search engines like United, Lifemiles or Aegean. That will tell you if it's an AC issue.
So a to c via b is good but a to b or b to c alone is not.
Seems like in this case both segments are available but cant be married by AE for some reason.
OP check if the itinerary comes up via other search engines like United, Lifemiles or Aegean. That will tell you if it's an AC issue.
May 24, 22, 10:15 am
#828
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"cherry picking" is definitely allowed. For a thought experiment, I wonder what would happen if you called in to book a stopover itinerary and then change it?
E.g. don't call in asking for two separate connecting one ways - call in asking for a stopover booking. Then once the agent pieces together those flights and quotes you the correct one way +5k price say you changed your mind and you actually want them back to back to save the 5k. Maybe the agents just need to be heavily handheld to do this if they can't do it on their own.
E.g. don't call in asking for two separate connecting one ways - call in asking for a stopover booking. Then once the agent pieces together those flights and quotes you the correct one way +5k price say you changed your mind and you actually want them back to back to save the 5k. Maybe the agents just need to be heavily handheld to do this if they can't do it on their own.
May 25, 22, 5:47 pm
#829
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 740
Originally Posted by Smiley90
"cherry picking" is definitely allowed. For a thought experiment, I wonder what would happen if you called in to book a stopover itinerary and then change it?
E.g. don't call in asking for two separate connecting one ways - call in asking for a stopover booking. Then once the agent pieces together those flights and quotes you the correct one way +5k price say you changed your mind and you actually want them back to back to save the 5k. Maybe the agents just need to be heavily handheld to do this if they can't do it on their own.
E.g. don't call in asking for two separate connecting one ways - call in asking for a stopover booking. Then once the agent pieces together those flights and quotes you the correct one way +5k price say you changed your mind and you actually want them back to back to save the 5k. Maybe the agents just need to be heavily handheld to do this if they can't do it on their own.
I called about half hour after initial booking and they had system errors, escalated to ticketing and to a supervisor and no one could make it work - TAP is blocking combinability on YYZ-LIS-FAO for some strange reason.
May 27, 22, 7:07 am
#830
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: YYZ
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Originally Posted by Smiley90
Thanks, couldn't find it anymore. Mhmmm... Sucks that free cancellation is gone, but oh well.
Originally Posted by SuperFlyBoy
I was just going to ask about the free cancellation - so one would now have to make sure to book the higher rate awards then in order to cancel and get a full refund?
May 31, 22, 6:02 pm
#831
Join Date: Dec 2012
Posts: 2
Routing question
Hey! I'm hoping someone can help with this, as I've been saving up Aeroplan points for a long time(I don't fly that much) and I want to treat my fiancee to a nice trip.
Is it possible to do the following on business class:
We are starting in Edmonton, wanting to go to Sydney, Australia with a stopover in Tokyo. So our flight routing would be:
YEG-YVR-HND(NRT)-SYD,.
The actual miles flown would be about 10,200.
Can we get this routing for 85k+5k stopover fee(flying ANA from YVR to HND/NRT?
If so, that would be perfect. As, I have just over 180k Aeroplan miles.
Is it possible to do the following on business class:
We are starting in Edmonton, wanting to go to Sydney, Australia with a stopover in Tokyo. So our flight routing would be:
YEG-YVR-HND(NRT)-SYD,.
The actual miles flown would be about 10,200.
Can we get this routing for 85k+5k stopover fee(flying ANA from YVR to HND/NRT?
If so, that would be perfect. As, I have just over 180k Aeroplan miles.
May 31, 22, 7:04 pm
#832
Join Date: Mar 2021
Posts: 26
Originally Posted by putadshere
Hey! I'm hoping someone can help with this, as I've been saving up Aeroplan points for a long time(I don't fly that much) and I want to treat my fiancee to a nice trip.
Is it possible to do the following on business class:
We are starting in Edmonton, wanting to go to Sydney, Australia with a stopover in Tokyo. So our flight routing would be:
YEG-YVR-HND(NRT)-SYD,.
The actual miles flown would be about 10,200.
Can we get this routing for 85k+5k stopover fee(flying ANA from YVR to HND/NRT?
If so, that would be perfect. As, I have just over 180k Aeroplan miles.
Is it possible to do the following on business class:
We are starting in Edmonton, wanting to go to Sydney, Australia with a stopover in Tokyo. So our flight routing would be:
YEG-YVR-HND(NRT)-SYD,.
The actual miles flown would be about 10,200.
Can we get this routing for 85k+5k stopover fee(flying ANA from YVR to HND/NRT?
If so, that would be perfect. As, I have just over 180k Aeroplan miles.
May 31, 22, 7:29 pm
#833
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Originally Posted by RobDN
That should be bookable. Where you may get thwarted is from dynamic pricing on the AC YEG-YVR segment. As soon as you add AC metal dynamic pricing cuts in and it can work for you or against you, and sometimes the against you numbers are very high.
Jun 4, 22, 8:30 am
#834
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: YYZ, NYC
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Is Aeroplan call center system the same as AC.com in terms of results/choices being displayed?
Had a hard time trying to get relatively simple flight options booked. Specifically united.com shows result with longer layover but AC.com and Aeroplan agent don't see them, when forcing the the flights it then price as 2 awards instead of 1.
Was trying one way YYZ-YUL-YVR-TPE, where the YYZ-YUL has I class but has 10+ connection at YUL, and this doesn't work for AC for some reason and they only display higher (dynamic points) AC flights to choose from. Is there any workaround to this?
Ended up dropping YYZ-YUL and will just call to change when YYZ-YVR I seat opens
Had a hard time trying to get relatively simple flight options booked. Specifically united.com shows result with longer layover but AC.com and Aeroplan agent don't see them, when forcing the the flights it then price as 2 awards instead of 1.
Was trying one way YYZ-YUL-YVR-TPE, where the YYZ-YUL has I class but has 10+ connection at YUL, and this doesn't work for AC for some reason and they only display higher (dynamic points) AC flights to choose from. Is there any workaround to this?
Ended up dropping YYZ-YUL and will just call to change when YYZ-YVR I seat opens
Jun 8, 22, 8:26 am
#835
Join Date: Jan 2022
Programs: Aeroplan, NEXUS
Posts: 5
Hey everyone! I've been reading through this thread and I still have no idea how this stuff works (although I do know I have to call in to aeroplan to book flights). I'm trying to book a trip from YYZ to MLE and back, but I don't quite know how to use the cowtool. I've seen different routing in other posts, like this: YYZ-AUH-MLE, then MLE-BAH-ATH-YYZ, but checking the cowtool says it'll take 3 days to get to AUH. What am I doing wrong? How to I book individual direct flights?
Jun 8, 22, 8:41 am
#836
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Toronto, ON
Programs: AC 75K
Posts: 6,098
Originally Posted by menna
Hey everyone! I've been reading through this thread and I still have no idea how this stuff works (although I do know I have to call in to aeroplan to book flights). I'm trying to book a trip from YYZ to MLE and back, but I don't quite know how to use the cowtool. I've seen different routing in other posts, like this: YYZ-AUH-MLE, then MLE-BAH-ATH-YYZ, but checking the cowtool says it'll take 3 days to get to AUH. What am I doing wrong? How to I book individual direct flights?
Maybe give us more of an idea of what you're trying to do, and we can give a little more guidance.
Jun 8, 22, 9:28 am
#837
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Originally Posted by menna
Hey everyone! I've been reading through this thread and I still have no idea how this stuff works (although I do know I have to call in to aeroplan to book flights). I'm trying to book a trip from YYZ to MLE and back, but I don't quite know how to use the cowtool. I've seen different routing in other posts, like this: YYZ-AUH-MLE, then MLE-BAH-ATH-YYZ, but checking the cowtool says it'll take 3 days to get to AUH. What am I doing wrong? How to I book individual direct flights?
How far out/dates are you trying to book? It's very likely you're just not seeing the "best" routings available because they've already been booked if you're not booking them 11 months or so from now.
Jun 8, 22, 10:39 am
#838
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: YVR
Posts: 903
Originally Posted by jix
Is Aeroplan call center system the same as AC.com in terms of results/choices being displayed?
Had a hard time trying to get relatively simple flight options booked. Specifically united.com shows result with longer layover but AC.com and Aeroplan agent don't see them, when forcing the the flights it then price as 2 awards instead of 1.
Was trying one way YYZ-YUL-YVR-TPE, where the YYZ-YUL has I class but has 10+ connection at YUL, and this doesn't work for AC for some reason and they only display higher (dynamic points) AC flights to choose from. Is there any workaround to this?
Ended up dropping YYZ-YUL and will just call to change when YYZ-YVR I seat opens
Had a hard time trying to get relatively simple flight options booked. Specifically united.com shows result with longer layover but AC.com and Aeroplan agent don't see them, when forcing the the flights it then price as 2 awards instead of 1.
Was trying one way YYZ-YUL-YVR-TPE, where the YYZ-YUL has I class but has 10+ connection at YUL, and this doesn't work for AC for some reason and they only display higher (dynamic points) AC flights to choose from. Is there any workaround to this?
Ended up dropping YYZ-YUL and will just call to change when YYZ-YVR I seat opens
If you decide to add YYZ-YVR, I think it will cause AC to reprice the entire trip. The dynamically priced YYZ-YVR-TPE may cost more than you expect.
Jun 9, 22, 2:27 am
#839
Join Date: May 2018
Posts: 82
Does dropping a leg with no other changes also cause AC to reprice the trip?
A-B-C is 40k, B-C (TPAC) is 80k. If I book A-B-C and ask to drop A-B, will that reprice or incur change fees?
B-C is AC metal, A-B is partner (and why I think it's causing it to be cheaper, as A-B and B-C both have Saver availability but the 80k AC is quoting for B-C is the top of the dynamic range for their award chart)
A-B-C is 40k, B-C (TPAC) is 80k. If I book A-B-C and ask to drop A-B, will that reprice or incur change fees?
B-C is AC metal, A-B is partner (and why I think it's causing it to be cheaper, as A-B and B-C both have Saver availability but the 80k AC is quoting for B-C is the top of the dynamic range for their award chart)
Last edited by Zwiebelbauer; Jun 9, 22 at 2:29 am Reason: grammar
Jun 9, 22, 9:21 am
#840
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Originally Posted by Zwiebelbauer
B-C is AC metal, A-B is partner (and why I think it's causing it to be cheaper, as A-B and B-C both have Saver availability but the 80k AC is quoting for B-C is the top of the dynamic range for their award chart)
You will need to get yourself to A in order to enjoy the 40k price
Its a lot easier when you only need A-B but A-B-C prices less ..
