Complex Multi-City Bookings, Stopovers & Adding Segments After Booking (Aeroplan 2.0)
#796
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Effectively, you are asking how you can violate the Contract of Carriage using "hidden city" ticketing. It can be done, but you run the risk of the airline charging you full price for your flight, or if you make a habit of it, being banned from flying. It's a small chance, but a non-zero risk.
Beyond that, from your description, your most significant risk is that they could potentially cancel either one or both tickets because of the overlapped itineraries. Airlines are getting very good at identifying and cancelling unflyable/speculative bookings.
Beyond that, from your description, your most significant risk is that they could potentially cancel either one or both tickets because of the overlapped itineraries. Airlines are getting very good at identifying and cancelling unflyable/speculative bookings.
#797
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There is no overlap between the two itineraries. They are booked on separate PNRs and the dates don't overlap. The AUH-ICN-KIX departs AUH 3 days after i land in AUH from the LHR-AUH-MCT itinerary. The only "overlap" is that they were both booked on points with aeroplan and include flights with Etihad airways. Is the term hidden city ticketing still applicable in this case when its 100% award flights? Would it be more appropriate to just call this a married segment issue? Regardless, you agree that my only option would be to just ditch the AUH-MCT leg? Ive never not flown a segment and this will most likely be a one off. I will do it if there is absolutely no way around this issue. Thanks for your input, appreciate it!
#798
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There is no overlap between the two itineraries. They are booked on separate PNRs and the dates don't overlap. The AUH-ICN-KIX departs AUH 3 days after i land in AUH from the LHR-AUH-MCT itinerary. The only "overlap" is that they were both booked on points with aeroplan and include flights with Etihad airways. Is the term hidden city ticketing still applicable in this case when its 100% award flights? Would it be more appropriate to just call this a married segment issue? Regardless, you agree that my only option would be to just ditch the AUH-MCT leg? Ive never not flown a segment and this will most likely be a one off. I will do it if there is absolutely no way around this issue. Thanks for your input, appreciate it!
I know it is not a lot of time, but MCT is very much worth a visit if you want to stick to the routing. Way more authentic than AUH.
#800
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So I have an existing award booking from MLE-AUH-IST-YVR in EY J through IST then TK J to YVR.
Since then, the MLE-AUH segment no longer has J award space.
However, I now see space in from AUH-LHR in EY F, following by LHR-YVR in AC J.
I called in to Aeroplan and asked if it's possible to change to MLE-AUH-LHR-YVR, but they said my original booking could be a married segment so there is no guarantee I will be able to rebook MLE-AUH in J after canceling.
Is she right or is this a case of HUCA? I would love to make this flight in J-F-J, but not at the risk of losing J-J-J that I already have booked.
Since then, the MLE-AUH segment no longer has J award space.
However, I now see space in from AUH-LHR in EY F, following by LHR-YVR in AC J.
I called in to Aeroplan and asked if it's possible to change to MLE-AUH-LHR-YVR, but they said my original booking could be a married segment so there is no guarantee I will be able to rebook MLE-AUH in J after canceling.
Is she right or is this a case of HUCA? I would love to make this flight in J-F-J, but not at the risk of losing J-J-J that I already have booked.
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Would also be interested in the add/change possibility.
#802
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Are you able to use Air Canada miles to fly from the United States to Canada with stopover in Canada and if so are you able to do this for the cost in miles plus the 5000 miles? And if so is the miles cost based on the distance from US to final Canada destination, Or to connecting Canada destination?
#803
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Are you able to use Air Canada miles to fly from the United States to Canada with stopover in Canada and if so are you able to do this for the cost in miles plus the 5000 miles? And if so is the miles cost based on the distance from US to final Canada destination, Or to connecting Canada destination?
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#805
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Tried phoning in to add my YXE-ORD segment and the agent wanted to charge me an additional 100,000 some points as it “recalculated the trip”. Any pointers on how to add this route in for free, just keep calling in till I get an agent that knows how to do it??
#806
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It might help to understand how Aeroplan prices their itineraries. ORD-AUH-SIN just fits into the 7,501-11,000 mileage band. Adding YXE-ORD (let's assume it's a non-stop for the sake of discussion) adds another 1127 miles which pushes you into the 11,001 mileage band which then triggers an additional cost. I don't know where the additional 100,000 miles comes from, but if YXE-ORD is a connecting flight on AC, you might be triggering AC dynamic pricing which will push the cost increase even further.
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#808
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Looking to book YYZ-AUH-SEZ in J on EY with a 5 day stopover in AUH...
If I book YYZ-AUH right when it becomes available, can I add the AUH-SEZ segment a week later using the 1 waived change free?
Would reprice from 85k to 100k + 5k for stopover?
If I book YYZ-AUH right when it becomes available, can I add the AUH-SEZ segment a week later using the 1 waived change free?
Would reprice from 85k to 100k + 5k for stopover?
#809

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will it ? Can’t guarantee as there’s some dp of agents not savvy enough to ticket it. In that case HUCA
should it - Yes, provided you are not caught up with married segment routing restrictions on AUH - SEZ
#810
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Thanks - I guess we'll see. I can book YYZ-SEZ as well as YYZ-AUH and AUH-SEZ separately online so hopefully there are no issues.