Complex Multi-City Points Bookings, Stopovers & Adding Segments (Aeroplan 2.0)
#661
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Join Date: May 2015
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I was hoping to get a little help with a couple of questions. With the world opening up again I was hoping to rebook my MRTW to Australia that I changed several times before finally cancelling (but it won't be a MRTW anymore - originally I had 5 day stops in KIX and WAW). I see YYZ-IAD-AUH and IAD-AUH-MEL with IAD-AUH if F, but not YYZ-IAD-AUH-MEL. Same with SYD as the final destination. Should I be able to phone that in? Also, if I book this leg now will I be able to phone in and amend it when the return opens up or should I wait and hope I can book both when it does. The reason I don't want to book 2 one ways is so I can use Priority rewards and save about 50% on the points. Thanks for any help you can give me (and thanks to Cow for his brilliant tool in helping me find this);
I've called in and added legs after the fact once they've opened up no problem, but like always, you might need to HUCA if the agent says something like "we can't do this anymore". They definitely can!
#663
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#664
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: YOW
Programs: AC SE, FOTSG Platinum
Posts: 5,726
Flying GRU - YUL - FRA on a Priority Lat award, I arrived in Montreal and wanted to change tonight's destination to Geneva.
Took an hour on hold, with repeated apologies from the agent as apparently there's an IT glitch currently affecting changes to Priority Rewards, but eventually it got through, and since they couldn't get the system to show them an amount for ADCOL they just gave it to me. I'm not mad!
Took an hour on hold, with repeated apologies from the agent as apparently there's an IT glitch currently affecting changes to Priority Rewards, but eventually it got through, and since they couldn't get the system to show them an amount for ADCOL they just gave it to me. I'm not mad!
#665
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Washington, DC, USA
Programs: HH Diamond, Marriott Titanium, UA 1k.
Posts: 296
This has been a very frustrating evening with Aeroplan.
I have been trying to book a one-way award with a stopover. BKK-BEG (stopover)-NYC. Found each leg available (BKK-IST-BEG + BEG-VIE-YYZ-LGA). This should satisfy all conditions for a stopover on a one-way.
However, after I finally got a hold of an Aeroplan agent, he seemed a bit clueless and couldn't do it himself. He called the ticketing desk and after a few minutes came back saying this can only be booked as two one-ways, not a one-way with a stopover. Because "in your [my] eyes this is a valid routing" but "according to IATA rules this is not a valid one-way ticket"!? I asked him to explain, he could not except to repeat "it would be too good to be true if you could do it that way." Of course, he himself looked at the one-way with a stopover rules and read them back to me, but added "there is always a small print."
Now on hold to speak with a supervisor but I am sure that is going to be another 1-1.5h wait at least
Am I missing something? Or are they trying to milk me out of points?
I have been trying to book a one-way award with a stopover. BKK-BEG (stopover)-NYC. Found each leg available (BKK-IST-BEG + BEG-VIE-YYZ-LGA). This should satisfy all conditions for a stopover on a one-way.
However, after I finally got a hold of an Aeroplan agent, he seemed a bit clueless and couldn't do it himself. He called the ticketing desk and after a few minutes came back saying this can only be booked as two one-ways, not a one-way with a stopover. Because "in your [my] eyes this is a valid routing" but "according to IATA rules this is not a valid one-way ticket"!? I asked him to explain, he could not except to repeat "it would be too good to be true if you could do it that way." Of course, he himself looked at the one-way with a stopover rules and read them back to me, but added "there is always a small print."
Now on hold to speak with a supervisor but I am sure that is going to be another 1-1.5h wait at least
Am I missing something? Or are they trying to milk me out of points?
#666
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Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: AU
Programs: former Olympic Airways Gold (yeah - still proud of that!)
Posts: 14,405
This has been a very frustrating evening with Aeroplan.
I have been trying to book a one-way award with a stopover. BKK-BEG (stopover)-NYC. Found each leg available (BKK-IST-BEG + BEG-VIE-YYZ-LGA). This should satisfy all conditions for a stopover on a one-way.
However, after I finally got a hold of an Aeroplan agent, he seemed a bit clueless and couldn't do it himself. He called the ticketing desk and after a few minutes came back saying this can only be booked as two one-ways, not a one-way with a stopover. Because "in your [my] eyes this is a valid routing" but "according to IATA rules this is not a valid one-way ticket"!? I asked him to explain, he could not except to repeat "it would be too good to be true if you could do it that way." Of course, he himself looked at the one-way with a stopover rules and read them back to me, but added "there is always a small print."
Now on hold to speak with a supervisor but I am sure that is going to be another 1-1.5h wait at least
Am I missing something? Or are they trying to milk me out of points?
I have been trying to book a one-way award with a stopover. BKK-BEG (stopover)-NYC. Found each leg available (BKK-IST-BEG + BEG-VIE-YYZ-LGA). This should satisfy all conditions for a stopover on a one-way.
However, after I finally got a hold of an Aeroplan agent, he seemed a bit clueless and couldn't do it himself. He called the ticketing desk and after a few minutes came back saying this can only be booked as two one-ways, not a one-way with a stopover. Because "in your [my] eyes this is a valid routing" but "according to IATA rules this is not a valid one-way ticket"!? I asked him to explain, he could not except to repeat "it would be too good to be true if you could do it that way." Of course, he himself looked at the one-way with a stopover rules and read them back to me, but added "there is always a small print."
Now on hold to speak with a supervisor but I am sure that is going to be another 1-1.5h wait at least
Am I missing something? Or are they trying to milk me out of points?
#667
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Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Canada
Programs: UA*1K MM SK EBG LATAM BL
Posts: 23,304
Is Air Serbia available nonstop?
#668
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Washington, DC, USA
Programs: HH Diamond, Marriott Titanium, UA 1k.
Posts: 296
I did not think about AirSerbia, thanks for suggesting it. Although AC's web search did not pull any availability on JU.
#669
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Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Canada
Programs: UA*1K MM SK EBG LATAM BL
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LOT? You may need to search by segment. The AC search engine prefers AC flights, so it may not display all options if you were to stitch them together. Then the next challenge if finding an agent who has the skills to build the itinerary for you.
#670
Join Date: Apr 2016
Posts: 614
This has been a very frustrating evening with Aeroplan.
I have been trying to book a one-way award with a stopover. BKK-BEG (stopover)-NYC. Found each leg available (BKK-IST-BEG + BEG-VIE-YYZ-LGA). This should satisfy all conditions for a stopover on a one-way.
However, after I finally got a hold of an Aeroplan agent, he seemed a bit clueless and couldn't do it himself. He called the ticketing desk and after a few minutes came back saying this can only be booked as two one-ways, not a one-way with a stopover. Because "in your [my] eyes this is a valid routing" but "according to IATA rules this is not a valid one-way ticket"!? I asked him to explain, he could not except to repeat "it would be too good to be true if you could do it that way." Of course, he himself looked at the one-way with a stopover rules and read them back to me, but added "there is always a small print."
Now on hold to speak with a supervisor but I am sure that is going to be another 1-1.5h wait at least
Am I missing something? Or are they trying to milk me out of points?
I have been trying to book a one-way award with a stopover. BKK-BEG (stopover)-NYC. Found each leg available (BKK-IST-BEG + BEG-VIE-YYZ-LGA). This should satisfy all conditions for a stopover on a one-way.
However, after I finally got a hold of an Aeroplan agent, he seemed a bit clueless and couldn't do it himself. He called the ticketing desk and after a few minutes came back saying this can only be booked as two one-ways, not a one-way with a stopover. Because "in your [my] eyes this is a valid routing" but "according to IATA rules this is not a valid one-way ticket"!? I asked him to explain, he could not except to repeat "it would be too good to be true if you could do it that way." Of course, he himself looked at the one-way with a stopover rules and read them back to me, but added "there is always a small print."
Now on hold to speak with a supervisor but I am sure that is going to be another 1-1.5h wait at least
Am I missing something? Or are they trying to milk me out of points?
As others have said, I'd look at dropping the AC segments if possible. Alternatively you can try booking BEG-NYC online and calling in to add on BKK-BEG, and seeing if there's any combination that prices out the stopover correctly.
#671
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Washington, DC, USA
Programs: HH Diamond, Marriott Titanium, UA 1k.
Posts: 296
It is a bit frustrating that these rules are not transparent at all to customers.
#672
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Update on Air Serbia... they (AC agent) can individually pull availability, but the two legs (BKK-BEG on TK and BEG-JFK on JU) cannot be married. So it prices out as two one-ways. Too bad, as there is apparently plenty of availability in J on JU.
It is a bit frustrating that these rules are not transparent at all to customers.
It is a bit frustrating that these rules are not transparent at all to customers.
#673
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Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Canada
Programs: UA*1K MM SK EBG LATAM BL
Posts: 23,304
Update on Air Serbia... they (AC agent) can individually pull availability, but the two legs (BKK-BEG on TK and BEG-JFK on JU) cannot be married. So it prices out as two one-ways. Too bad, as there is apparently plenty of availability in J on JU.
It is a bit frustrating that these rules are not transparent at all to customers.
It is a bit frustrating that these rules are not transparent at all to customers.
Ok thats nonsense, this should price out. Perhaps call again and have the agent put it all together as a multicity itinerary, and escalate. This should be very straight forward. Good luck finding someone who can override "computer says no!"
#674
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Washington, DC, USA
Programs: HH Diamond, Marriott Titanium, UA 1k.
Posts: 296
Thats the problem, the only source of the "rules" is an internal paper published by a blog. Most agents arent even trained in the rules.
Ok thats nonsense, this should price out. Perhaps call again and have the agent put it all together as a multicity itinerary, and escalate. This should be very straight forward. Good luck finding someone who can override "computer says no!"
Ok thats nonsense, this should price out. Perhaps call again and have the agent put it all together as a multicity itinerary, and escalate. This should be very straight forward. Good luck finding someone who can override "computer says no!"
But it was the ticketing desk who said "no". In which case it is most likely they actually cannot be married.
#675
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 1
Aeroplan Stopover Pricing
Hi,
I am trying to book the following one way flight with a stopover in business class.
July 19th: Toronto to Munich AC834
July 20th: Munich to Split OU4439
Stopover Split
July 22nd Split to Zurich OU462
Based on the routing and mileage that I calculated that it should be 75000 points (70000+5000 stopover). However, when I call the Aeroplan centre to book it, they price it as 85000 points as they add each leg separately. Can someone please confirm if it should be 75000 or 85000 to book this itinerary? Thank you.
I am trying to book the following one way flight with a stopover in business class.
July 19th: Toronto to Munich AC834
July 20th: Munich to Split OU4439
Stopover Split
July 22nd Split to Zurich OU462
Based on the routing and mileage that I calculated that it should be 75000 points (70000+5000 stopover). However, when I call the Aeroplan centre to book it, they price it as 85000 points as they add each leg separately. Can someone please confirm if it should be 75000 or 85000 to book this itinerary? Thank you.