[OVER 48 HOURS FROM DEPARTURE] AC changed/cancelled my flight. What are my options?
#226
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#227
Join Date: Apr 2013
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The rule is not "whatever you want".
They'll often give you anything reasonable, but they're well within their right to do something like cutting out the YYC connection, allowing you to depart later and arrive at the same time, and let you take that, or accept a refund.
I think they realized a lot of people were deliberately booking A-B-C-D knowing there'd be a schedule change that would let them get the 200k point A-D for 25k points.
They'll often give you anything reasonable, but they're well within their right to do something like cutting out the YYC connection, allowing you to depart later and arrive at the same time, and let you take that, or accept a refund.
I think they realized a lot of people were deliberately booking A-B-C-D knowing there'd be a schedule change that would let them get the 200k point A-D for 25k points.
#228
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Interesting, as AE/AC just let me do that exactly. Lufthansa/Eurowings Discover had a schedule change that created a misconnect in Frankfurt. I contacted AE to try to get a later flight FRA to FCO to fix the misconnect and they proactively offered to put me on YEG-YYZ-FCO (all AC metal) instead of YEG-YYC-FRA-FCO. Cut the travel time from about 24 hours to about 15. There are 9 of us in business, so we paid about 1.2 million AE points for an itinerary that would have cost 3.2 million (YEG to FCO, returning CMN to YEG). Cash price was about $32,000, now is about $106,000.
It's all about being reasonable. If you book SFO-YVR-YUL-YOW-YYZ for 10k points, do not expect to get SFO-YYZ (standalone cost of 100k) when there's a schedule change. In your case, there didn't seem to be a "similar" alternative. Either you left at the same time and got in way later, or they cut out one connection.
#229
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Cutting out one connection isn't exactly what I'm talking about haha.
It's all about being reasonable. If you book SFO-YVR-YUL-YOW-YYZ for 10k points, do not expect to get SFO-YYZ (standalone cost of 100k) when there's a schedule change. In your case, there didn't seem to be a "similar" alternative. Either you left at the same time and got in way later, or they cut out one connection.
It's all about being reasonable. If you book SFO-YVR-YUL-YOW-YYZ for 10k points, do not expect to get SFO-YYZ (standalone cost of 100k) when there's a schedule change. In your case, there didn't seem to be a "similar" alternative. Either you left at the same time and got in way later, or they cut out one connection.
#230
Join Date: Sep 2017
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AC flight changed due to operational constrains etc.
Purchased a Round trip: LHR to YVR, YVR to YYC, YYC to LHR all Business class in May 2022.
Had a email from AC stating 'due to unexpected business or operational constrains on our planned flight schedule', they have changed one flight LHR to YVR to an earlier time with no problem for me.
But they cancelled my one internal flight YVR to YYC and automatically transferred to another later flight without questioning if that was ok or to choose another of our choice.
Had to confirm these changes, in doing so and confirmed. Because of they're the ones changing the flights, I went through online to change to the next earlier flight, they want to charge £200 to change the flight for no fault of mine.
Spent an hour dialling the freephone '0800 ..............', going from one dept to another with no joy in solving this.
This may be punishment for changing from BA.
Had a email from AC stating 'due to unexpected business or operational constrains on our planned flight schedule', they have changed one flight LHR to YVR to an earlier time with no problem for me.
But they cancelled my one internal flight YVR to YYC and automatically transferred to another later flight without questioning if that was ok or to choose another of our choice.
Had to confirm these changes, in doing so and confirmed. Because of they're the ones changing the flights, I went through online to change to the next earlier flight, they want to charge £200 to change the flight for no fault of mine.
Spent an hour dialling the freephone '0800 ..............', going from one dept to another with no joy in solving this.
This may be punishment for changing from BA.
#231
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Purchased a Round trip: LHR to YVR, YVR to YYC, YYC to LHR all Business class in May 2022.
Had a email from AC stating 'due to unexpected business or operational constrains on our planned flight schedule', they have changed one flight LHR to YVR to an earlier time with no problem for me.
But they cancelled my one internal flight YVR to YYC and automatically transferred to another later flight without questioning if that was ok or to choose another of our choice.
Had to confirm these changes, in doing so and confirmed. Because of they're the ones changing the flights, I went through online to change to the next earlier flight, they want to charge £200 to change the flight for no fault of mine.
Spent an hour dialling the freephone '0800 ..............', going from one dept to another with no joy in solving this.
This may be punishment for changing from BA.
Had a email from AC stating 'due to unexpected business or operational constrains on our planned flight schedule', they have changed one flight LHR to YVR to an earlier time with no problem for me.
But they cancelled my one internal flight YVR to YYC and automatically transferred to another later flight without questioning if that was ok or to choose another of our choice.
Had to confirm these changes, in doing so and confirmed. Because of they're the ones changing the flights, I went through online to change to the next earlier flight, they want to charge £200 to change the flight for no fault of mine.
Spent an hour dialling the freephone '0800 ..............', going from one dept to another with no joy in solving this.
This may be punishment for changing from BA.
#232
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i never confirm changes if i don't like them.
just the other day i received a change notification and had to call. after about a 30 min hold, the agent told me that he does changes all day long. he implied that that was almost all he did. i felt like telling him that maybe they wouldn't have to do so many changes if people could actually do the changes online!
i have never ever seen this button actually work. i always get the message telling me that there are no other options. has it worked for you? for anyone else?
just the other day i received a change notification and had to call. after about a 30 min hold, the agent told me that he does changes all day long. he implied that that was almost all he did. i felt like telling him that maybe they wouldn't have to do so many changes if people could actually do the changes online!
i have never ever seen this button actually work. i always get the message telling me that there are no other options. has it worked for you? for anyone else?
#233
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it often doesn’t work, but for relatively straightforward changes it does work. I had a change on YYZ-YYC flight where they were adding flights and adjusting flights. I was moved from the 787 to a A321 with a small schedule change and yesterday was able to easily change online to my preferred wide body flight.
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#236
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it often doesn’t work, but for relatively straightforward changes it does work. I had a change on YYZ-YYC flight where they were adding flights and adjusting flights. I was moved from the 787 to a A321 with a small schedule change and yesterday was able to easily change online to my preferred wide body flight.
#237
Join Date: Aug 2018
Posts: 28
Itinerary change, possible options ?
Hi, I have reward booking from Melbourne to Toronto with a layover in Sydney. Previously layover in Sydney was around 3 hours.
I found today through an email from Air Canada that my flight from Melbourne to Sydney now departs a day early and that layover in Sydney is now 12+ hours overnight stay.
I wanted to find out from knowledgeable members here if I have any options available that makes my travel easier before I call Aeroplan ? I understand I will have to call Aeroplan but calling them from overseas with a wait time of over an hour isn't ideal.
Thank you
Edit: Was able to reach an agent on the phone who advised that I was required to be at the Sydney airport 4 hours prior to the departure. Air Canada flight leaves at 9:30 in the morning and earliest flight from Melbourne arrives at 7:35am which leaves 1:55 minutes between the connection. I found it quite strange as 4 hour limit cannot be mct in any case.
I found today through an email from Air Canada that my flight from Melbourne to Sydney now departs a day early and that layover in Sydney is now 12+ hours overnight stay.
I wanted to find out from knowledgeable members here if I have any options available that makes my travel easier before I call Aeroplan ? I understand I will have to call Aeroplan but calling them from overseas with a wait time of over an hour isn't ideal.
Thank you
Edit: Was able to reach an agent on the phone who advised that I was required to be at the Sydney airport 4 hours prior to the departure. Air Canada flight leaves at 9:30 in the morning and earliest flight from Melbourne arrives at 7:35am which leaves 1:55 minutes between the connection. I found it quite strange as 4 hour limit cannot be mct in any case.
Last edited by Celticfrost; Feb 28, 2022 at 8:15 pm
#238
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Another data point -- Aeroplan redemption of 2 pairs of LH flights, in the first pair the second flight was cancelled and replaced with one arriving 3.5hrs later (i.e. 3.5hrs extra layover time). Looked up alternatives (thanks CowTool!), called into Aeroplan, got both flights changed to another pair, first departing a bit earlier than originally planned but second arriving not much later than originally planned, so closer to original schedule with a much shorter layover.
old flights were 15K ea in J. new flights were showing on Aeroplan as 25K ea in J. didn't get charged anything, was expecting a potential reprice...
old flights were 15K ea in J. new flights were showing on Aeroplan as 25K ea in J. didn't get charged anything, was expecting a potential reprice...
#239
Join Date: Oct 2012
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AC denying refunds again
So, AC seems to be playing games again with denying refunds. Have a direct Canada-US flight with significant schedule changes of >5 hours in one direction, and the other direction was changed from a direct flight to a connecting flight. Website wasn't offering a refund, so I'd called in to cancel and request a refund. The agent said it should be fine and put me on hold, but then came back and said because the schedule changes were processed, it was no longer eligible for a refund. I'd insisted that this was eligible for a refund based on AC's own tariff and the agent put me on hold to check with a supervisor, and reiterated that once the schedule change is acknowledged, the ticket is no longer eligible for a refund. Total BS.
The agent I got today insisted that once it's HK, it means you accepted the schedule change and forfeit any eligibility for a refund too.
The agent I got today insisted that once it's HK, it means you accepted the schedule change and forfeit any eligibility for a refund too.