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Old Oct 5, 2021, 3:40 pm
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Maybe I can help answer on cow's behalf. He was SE in 2019 which was extended to 2020. However in 2020 he earned 75k (factoring his SQD) even though SQM was >250k. For 2021 his SQM rollover was the difference between his earned 75k and actual >250k.
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Old Oct 5, 2021, 5:26 pm
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Exactly what I was looking for - many thanks !
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Old Oct 7, 2021, 6:22 am
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Aeroplan Reserve CC Rollover

Curious how AC is going to address rollover from 2023 to 2024. If status is earned for 2023 from 2022 due to flying in 2021 that rolled over, what are the rollover rules for 2024. Would all the miles earned in 2023 rollover to 2024?

An example would be:
2021 flying: 150K miles - all of this rolls over to 2022
2022 flying: 75K - so total of 225K for 2023 (150K rollover + 75K earned)
2023 flying: 50K - would there be any rollover from the 2022 flying as status was already earned for 2023 based on the 150K rollover from 2021 (ie would all of the 75K earned in 2022 rollover to 2023)

Because the 2022 year is going to be an exception with all miles rolled over, how will this apply to the following year?

I couldn't find the thread that this was previously discussed in so feel free to move this to the correct thread.
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Old Oct 7, 2021, 6:45 am
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I project that the rollovers will just roll - as needed - as there is likely no desire right now to cull the herd . . . . . so some of us will benefit with a long tail!!! There is a strong push to get people to travel so if you do - you will be rewarded for a long time. While - if you don't, 2022 will be the end of the line (currently) of all the free deferrals. I think they have been very reasonable and generous and now have had a balance of pushing us to travel yet not pushing too hard too soon.
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Old Oct 7, 2021, 11:39 am
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Originally Posted by EdmFlyBoi
Curious how AC is going to address rollover from 2023 to 2024. If status is earned for 2023 from 2022 due to flying in 2021 that rolled over, what are the rollover rules for 2024. Would all the miles earned in 2023 rollover to 2024?

An example would be:
2021 flying: 150K miles - all of this rolls over to 2022
2022 flying: 75K - so total of 225K for 2023 (150K rollover + 75K earned)
2023 flying: 50K - would there be any rollover from the 2022 flying as status was already earned for 2023 based on the 150K rollover from 2021 (ie would all of the 75K earned in 2022 rollover to 2023)

Because the 2022 year is going to be an exception with all miles rolled over, how will this apply to the following year?

I couldn't find the thread that this was previously discussed in so feel free to move this to the correct thread.
Huh?

What status do you qualify for in 2021 with that 150k SQM? SE? If so, you roll over 50k, not 150k.

If you then fly 75k in 2022, qualifying for SE again, you would roll over 25k to 2023.

You roll over the amount ABOVE what's required for the status you qualified for (up to a max of 200k). You don't roll over everything.

However, 2022 is a weird year, in that if you qualify for SE in your scenario, there's a separate promotion running, so you'd actually get your full 150k plus the 50k credit card rollover, and that will bump all these numbers up a fair bit. But excluding that one promo, my numbers are how the credit card rollover works.
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Old Oct 7, 2021, 3:17 pm
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Originally Posted by canadiancow
Huh?

What status do you qualify for in 2021 with that 150k SQM? SE? If so, you roll over 50k, not 150k.

If you then fly 75k in 2022, qualifying for SE again, you would roll over 25k to 2023.

You roll over the amount ABOVE what's required for the status you qualified for (up to a max of 200k). You don't roll over everything.

However, 2022 is a weird year, in that if you qualify for SE in your scenario, there's a separate promotion running, so you'd actually get your full 150k plus the 50k credit card rollover, and that will bump all these numbers up a fair bit. But excluding that one promo, my numbers are how the credit card rollover works.
I am well aware that 2022 is a weird year and I can acknowledge that I am getting the numbers wrong. So repeating my example then:

2021 - earn 150K - 50K rolls over plus 150K rolls over plus 25K status bump for $10K spend, so the year would start with 225K
2022 - fly an additional 75K - end the year with 300K (75K + 225K rollover)
2023 - fly an additional 50K - would the year end with 50K + 200K rollover (which is the maximum allowed to rollover) or what is the number that rolls over from 2022?
2024 - what rolls over to 2024?
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Old Oct 7, 2021, 3:30 pm
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Originally Posted by EdmFlyBoi
I am well aware that 2022 is a weird year and I can acknowledge that I am getting the numbers wrong. So repeating my example then:

2021 - earn 150K - 50K rolls over plus 150K rolls over plus 25K status bump for $10K spend, so the year would start with 225K
2022 - fly an additional 75K - end the year with 300K (75K + 225K rollover)
2023 - fly an additional 50K - would the year end with 50K + 200K rollover (which is the maximum allowed to rollover) or what is the number that rolls over from 2022?
2024 - what rolls over to 2024?
I don't know if you can keep rolling over SQM forever or not. In 2023, I don't know if you'd start with 200k or 75k.

If it's 200k and you fly 50k, you'd roll over 150k to 2024. If it's 75k and you fly 50k, you'd roll over 25k.

The way I read the terms, it will be the higher number. But it's AC, so...
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Old Oct 7, 2021, 3:41 pm
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Originally Posted by canadiancow
I don't know if you can keep rolling over SQM forever or not. In 2023, I don't know if you'd start with 200k or 75k.

If it's 200k and you fly 50k, you'd roll over 150k to 2024. If it's 75k and you fly 50k, you'd roll over 25k.

The way I read the terms, it will be the higher number. But it's AC, so...
Fair answer.
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Old Oct 7, 2021, 3:51 pm
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I think I recall that In some of the promotional materials regarding the promotion and cc rollover Ac/ap make statements to the effect that they are giving a head start for 2023 and future years so I agree with cows interpretation but also agree that Ac has made torturedinterpretations of t and c in the past
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Old Oct 7, 2021, 4:31 pm
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Originally Posted by canadiancow
However, 2022 is a weird year, in that if you qualify for SE in your scenario, there's a separate promotion running, so you'd actually get your full 150k plus the 50k credit card rollover...
I may be missing something painfully obvious, but how does one get the 50k? I have a 25k offer through my premium Amex.
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Old Oct 7, 2021, 5:49 pm
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Originally Posted by talkeryxu
I may be missing something painfully obvious, but how does one get the 50k? I have a 25k offer through my premium Amex.
He's talking about the 50K SQM above the 100K SE requalification requirement as described in the scenario 2021 flying: 150K miles
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Old Oct 7, 2021, 5:51 pm
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Originally Posted by TechnoTourist
He's talking about the 50K SQM above the 100K SE requalification requirement as described in the scenario 2021 flying: 150K miles
Thank you. The word "promotion" was what threw me.
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Old Oct 18, 2021, 3:19 pm
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E-upgrade credits rolled over for Premium Card holders

"Elite Status rollover benefits
If youre the Primary Cardholder of an Aeroplan premium credit card, we will automatically rollover eligible Status Qualifying Miles and eUpgrade credits to 2022. Any rollover Status Qualifying Miles or eUpgrade credits that apply to your cardholder status will be posted to your account separately by the last week of January.

To be eligible for the rollover benefits, status members who are not already cardholders must be approved for a new Aeroplan premium credit card no later than December 15, 2021."

I appreciate this as I might actually use them in 2022! Nice to have 160-180 eupgrade credits to start the year again! Don't think I will use any? this year.

Like the clarity of the wording on jumpstart:

"
Elite Status qualification jumpstart for 2022If you achieve any Aeroplan Elite Status based on the published qualification criteria through your 2021 flight activity with Air Canada, the Star Alliance member airlines, and other eligible airline partners, well honour your 2021 Status Qualifying Miles (SQM), Segments (SQS), and Dollars (SQD) in 2022, jumpstarting your status qualification for 2022 and beyond.

For certainty, over the course of 2021, members would need to earn at least 25,000 SQM or 25 SQS, and at least 3,000 SQD (1,500 SQD for non-Canadian residents), in order to be eligible for this jumpstart in 2022.

Example: If you hold Aeroplan 75K status for 2021, you'll keep that status through the end of 2022.
  • Based on your 2021 flight activities, if you earn 26,000 SQM, 15 SQS, and 3,500 SQD, youll have met the qualification requirement for Aeroplan 25K, and therefore all 26,000 SQM, 15 SQS, and 3,500 SQD will be added to your qualification balance in 2022.
  • Similarly, based on your 2021 flight activities, if you earn 79,000 SQM, 35 SQS, and 12,500 SQD, youll have met the qualification requirement for Aeroplan 75K, and therefore all 79,000 SQM, 35 SQS, and 12,500 SQD will be added to your qualification balance in 2022.
  • However, based on your 2021 flight activities, if you earn 12,000 SQM, 4 SQS, and 2,800 SQD, you will not have met the qualification requirement for any Aeroplan Elite Status, and therefore your 2021 SQM, SQS, and SQD will not be honoured in 2022."
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Old Oct 18, 2021, 4:16 pm
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Originally Posted by BlondeBomber
"Elite Status rollover benefits
If you’re the Primary Cardholder of an Aeroplan premium credit card, we will automatically rollover eligible Status Qualifying Miles and eUpgrade credits to 2022. Any rollover Status Qualifying Miles or eUpgrade credits that apply to your cardholder status will be posted to your account separately by the last week of January.
Now this scares me, as every Canadian who got the status match w/ a Canadian residence most likely has an AE premium card. Which means rollover for them, and less upgrade space next year for everyone. AC better start doing something about the matches.
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Old Oct 18, 2021, 4:32 pm
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Originally Posted by SKYEG
Which means rollover for them, and less upgrade space next year for everyone.
...only if the number of incoming status-matched flyers more than makes up for the still-reduced flight volume from existing elites, but we've all debated that one to death already.
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