Baggage rules and partner airlines
#1
Original Poster
Join Date: May 2018
Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Posts: 188
Baggage rules and partner airlines
Hey everyone,
I'm surprised by the confusion by Air Canada and United call centre employees as I've been trying to figure out what baggage rules I follow on a return flight home.
I booked Aeroplan via Air Canada (014 stock)
Outbound 1: Air Canada YYZ-ORD
Outbound 2: United ORD-MSY
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Return 1: United MSY-IAD
Return 2: United IAD-YYZ
I know the rule when flying to/from US-Canada that you follow the rules of the first-carrier/marketing carrier on the itinerary, but is it per direction or the entire itinerary? I followed AC's rules on the way down (self-explanatory), but on my return, am I to follow United's baggage policy or Air Canada as they were the marketing carrier and first segment on the outbound?
United's site shows charges (which should be waived for 50K/*G), but Air Canada's policies are more generous. Thanks in advance, everyone!
I'm surprised by the confusion by Air Canada and United call centre employees as I've been trying to figure out what baggage rules I follow on a return flight home.
I booked Aeroplan via Air Canada (014 stock)
Outbound 1: Air Canada YYZ-ORD
Outbound 2: United ORD-MSY
--
Return 1: United MSY-IAD
Return 2: United IAD-YYZ
I know the rule when flying to/from US-Canada that you follow the rules of the first-carrier/marketing carrier on the itinerary, but is it per direction or the entire itinerary? I followed AC's rules on the way down (self-explanatory), but on my return, am I to follow United's baggage policy or Air Canada as they were the marketing carrier and first segment on the outbound?
United's site shows charges (which should be waived for 50K/*G), but Air Canada's policies are more generous. Thanks in advance, everyone!
#3
Original Poster
Join Date: May 2018
Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Posts: 188
Yes, I’m specifically referring to allowances. I wasn’t sure if USDOT rules of following the marketing carrier’s policies/first carrier’s allowances meant the first carrier of the entire trip or per direction.
#4
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 187
Hey everyone,
I'm surprised by the confusion by Air Canada and United call centre employees as I've been trying to figure out what baggage rules I follow on a return flight home.
I booked Aeroplan via Air Canada (014 stock)
Outbound 1: Air Canada YYZ-ORD
Outbound 2: United ORD-MSY
--
Return 1: United MSY-IAD
Return 2: United IAD-YYZ
I know the rule when flying to/from US-Canada that you follow the rules of the first-carrier/marketing carrier on the itinerary, but is it per direction or the entire itinerary? I followed AC's rules on the way down (self-explanatory), but on my return, am I to follow United's baggage policy or Air Canada as they were the marketing carrier and first segment on the outbound?
United's site shows charges (which should be waived for 50K/*G), but Air Canada's policies are more generous. Thanks in advance, everyone!
I'm surprised by the confusion by Air Canada and United call centre employees as I've been trying to figure out what baggage rules I follow on a return flight home.
I booked Aeroplan via Air Canada (014 stock)
Outbound 1: Air Canada YYZ-ORD
Outbound 2: United ORD-MSY
--
Return 1: United MSY-IAD
Return 2: United IAD-YYZ
I know the rule when flying to/from US-Canada that you follow the rules of the first-carrier/marketing carrier on the itinerary, but is it per direction or the entire itinerary? I followed AC's rules on the way down (self-explanatory), but on my return, am I to follow United's baggage policy or Air Canada as they were the marketing carrier and first segment on the outbound?
United's site shows charges (which should be waived for 50K/*G), but Air Canada's policies are more generous. Thanks in advance, everyone!
1st layer (the base allowance): the answer is entire journey since you go to the US. this doesn't change even if your inbound 1st flight is with a different operating carrier than your 1st flight outbound.
399.87 Baggage allowances and fees.
For passengers whose ultimate ticketed origin or destination is a U.S. point, U.S. and foreign carriers must apply the baggage allowances and fees that apply at the beginning of a passenger’s itinerary throughout his or her entire itinerary. In the case of codeshare flights that form part of an itinerary whose ultimate ticketed origin or destination is a U.S. point, U.S. and foreign carriers must apply the baggage allowances and fees of the marketing carrier throughout the itinerary to the extent that they differ from those of any operating carrier.
2nd layer (allowance due to elite status with the operating carrier, credit card, etc): since you are (50K) with AC if i read correctly on the AC website, this should give you 1st 3 bags at 32kg each free on the outbound. However, on your way back, United, airline that check your bags for your inbound flights, gives only one 1st bag at 23 kg free for star gold.
Last edited by aznfreak007; Dec 23, 2020 at 11:54 am
#5
Original Poster
Join Date: May 2018
Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Posts: 188
there are 2 layers to your question.
1st layer (the base allowance): the answer is entire journey since you go to the US. this doesn't change even if your inbound 1st flight is with a different operating carrier than your 1st flight outbound.
399.87 Baggage allowances and fees.
For passengers whose ultimate ticketed origin or destination is a U.S. point, U.S. and foreign carriers must apply the baggage allowances and fees that apply at the beginning of a passenger’s itinerary throughout his or her entire itinerary. In the case of codeshare flights that form part of an itinerary whose ultimate ticketed origin or destination is a U.S. point, U.S. and foreign carriers must apply the baggage allowances and fees of the marketing carrier throughout the itinerary to the extent that they differ from those of any operating carrier.
2nd layer (allowance due to elite status with the operating carrier, credit card, etc): since you are (50K) with AC if i read correctly on the AC website, this should give you 3 bags at 32kg each on the outbound. However, on your way back, United, airline that check your bags for your inbound flights, gives only one bag at 23 kg free for star gold.
1st layer (the base allowance): the answer is entire journey since you go to the US. this doesn't change even if your inbound 1st flight is with a different operating carrier than your 1st flight outbound.
399.87 Baggage allowances and fees.
For passengers whose ultimate ticketed origin or destination is a U.S. point, U.S. and foreign carriers must apply the baggage allowances and fees that apply at the beginning of a passenger’s itinerary throughout his or her entire itinerary. In the case of codeshare flights that form part of an itinerary whose ultimate ticketed origin or destination is a U.S. point, U.S. and foreign carriers must apply the baggage allowances and fees of the marketing carrier throughout the itinerary to the extent that they differ from those of any operating carrier.
2nd layer (allowance due to elite status with the operating carrier, credit card, etc): since you are (50K) with AC if i read correctly on the AC website, this should give you 3 bags at 32kg each on the outbound. However, on your way back, United, airline that check your bags for your inbound flights, gives only one bag at 23 kg free for star gold.
#6
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: CLE, DCA, and 30k feet
Programs: Honors LT Diamond; United 1K; Hertz PC
Posts: 4,162
Baggage check-in must occur with United or United Express, and you must have valid MileagePlus Premier® 1K® membership at time of check-in to qualify for waiver of service charges for up to three checked bags (within specified size and weight limits).