Aeroplan Variable Pricing - Post your search results here
As we all get our heads around the new variable pricing model, I thought it might be useful to have a thread similar to "Post Your LMU Offer", so we can share data points and start to get a sense of just how "dynamic" the pricing will be.
I would suggest posting as follows: DATE, ORIGIN AND DESTINATION AC Status and any credit cards that offer preferred pricing - Route, including connections - Operating carrier(s) - Dates - Cost In Points Econ / PE / BIZ - Fees etc. - Priority Reward, if applicable So, for example: Jan 11, 2021 - YYZ-CPH 75K, TD Aeroplan Visa Infinite YYZ - LHR - CPH Air Canada + SAS 40K / 64.9K / 70K + $114 Priority 20K / 32.5K / 70K YYZ - SFO - CPH Air Canada + SAS 55K / 70K / 85K + $122 Priority 27.5K / 30K / 70K Nov 23, 2020 - YOW - YVR 75K, TD Aeroplan Visa Infinite Air Canada 24K / 64.4K / 29.8K for YOW-YYZ-YVR, all biz, E75 and 789, dep 16:00 arr 19:45 37.1K / na / 59.6K for YOW-YYZ-YVR, biz on YOW-YYZ only, dep 12:00 38.5K / 68.1K / 107.8K for YOW-YYZ-YVR, all biz, E75 and 789, dep 06:00 arr 10:12 |
YVR-PVG NOVEMBER 29, 2020.
Air Canada(E50K + Visa Infinity) 199K Points + $55 Economy Yes you read that right. BTW AC's own reward chart guided an upper range of 65K |
Apr 05, 2021 - YVR - TYO
75K, TD Aeroplan Visa Infinite YVR-NRT, Air Canada direct 27.4 / 33.6 / 45.3 + $53 Priority 13.7 / 16.8 / 45.3 + $53 YVR-YYZ-HND, Air Canada 171.9 / 77 / 51.8 Priority 86 / 38.5 / 51.8 + $57 (no typos, econ is higher) YVR-YYC-NRT, Air Canada 31.4 / 33.6 / 79.7 + $53 Feb 15, 2021 - YYZ-HKG YVR-HKG, Air Canada direct 36.1 / 49.8 / 69 + $55 YYZ-YVR-HKG, Air Canada 36.9 / 49.8 / 116.4 + $55 YYZ-YOW-YVR-HKG, Air Canada 161.8 / 136.3 / 457.4 + $55 YYZ-YUL-YVR-HKG, Air Canada 37.1 / 55.7 / 141.5 + $55 - on those last two, flying YYZ-YOW-YVR or YYZ-YUL-YVR, twenty minutes apart, more than doubles the cost of the award - not sure how the taxes and fees are identical with an extra airport in the mix Mon, Feb 15 - IST-HKG IST - HKG, TK Direct na / na / 60K + $75 IST-YYZ-HKG, TK + AC 60 / 80 / 100 + $80 IST-ZRH-HKG, TK + LX 50 / na / 80 + $98 IST-AMS-YYZ-HKG, TK + AC + AC na / na / 100 + $80 Oct 20, 2021 - YVR-PER YVR-NRT-PER, Air Canada / ANA 60 / 75 / 85 + $144 Priority 30 / 37.5 / 85 + $144 Oct 20, 2021 - YOW-SYD YOW-YVR-SYD, Air Canada na / na / 615,000 + $88 YOW-YWG-YVR-SYD, Air Canada 56.5 / 57.1 / 541,800 + $88 YOW-YYZ-HND-SYD, AC+AC+ANA 57.3 / 90 / 117.6 + $148 YOW-YYZ-HND-SYD, AC+AC+ANA, leaving YOW 1 hour earlier than above 56.5 / 57.1 / 119.1 + $148 That's 615,000 points, where AC's published chart lists NA-Pac, <11,000 miles, at 85K-200K max. |
Here's something interesting...
Dec 28 - Jan 4 YVR-PVR Business class (Jetz) Under old program booked: 60k + $170 New program: $155 for tax/fees Points required for Business - Lowest: No status: 56,000 25k + TD Infinite card: 46,600 100K + CIBC Aerogold Business: 46,100 100K + No CC: 47,100 Credit card discount is more substantial than 100k status? |
Originally Posted by Jumper Jack
(Post 32807837)
YVR-PVG NOVEMBER 29, 2020.
Air Canada(E50K + Visa Infinity) 199K Points + $55 Economy Yes you read that right. BTW AC's own reward chart guided an upper range of 65K |
Reposting here.
Based on mine and some other folks exploration before AP went live - Summary is as follows.
For travel hackers aka AP collectors, 100K AP (without AQS, AQM, AQD) will continue to give P25K status as a continued benefit. So pretty good deal for locking discounted award pricing. Also, SkipLagging can provide significant arbitrage gains. :) |
Originally Posted by Jumper Jack
(Post 32807837)
YVR-PVG NOVEMBER 29, 2020.
Air Canada(E50K + Visa Infinity) 199K Points + $55 Economy
Originally Posted by philelite
(Post 32807854)
Dec 28 - Jan 4 YVR-PVR
Business class (Jetz) New program: $155 for tax/fees Points required for Business - Lowest: No status: 56,000 25k + TD Infinite card: 46,600 100K + CIBC Aerogold Business: 46,100 100K + No CC: 47,100
Originally Posted by jugaadkabaap
(Post 32808133)
Based on mine and some other folks exploration before AP went live - Summary is as follows.
Based on these 2 limited DPs, it seems like CC discount outweighs any kind of status? |
Originally Posted by pentiumvi
(Post 32808170)
No status, with CC 199.2k
No status, w/ CC, 47.1K Based on these 2 limited DPs, it seems like CC discount outweighs any kind of status? For example, flying YYZ-YUL-YVR-HKG rather than YYZ-YOW-YVR-HKG, departing and arriving at exactly the same dates and times, can produce massively different results, where one is nearly 3x the other. Point is, introducing ANY disparity between flights skews the data beyond any point of fair comparison. |
I've found a few curiosities where the variable pricing is lower than the base amount. With crappy overnight layovers, though. Sample below:
Dec 13, 2020 YYC-PRG YYC-YOW-YYZ-FRA-PRG (AC/LH) 33.8/48/53.4 + $150 P25K + CC |
Originally Posted by pentiumvi
(Post 32808170)
No status, with CC 199.2k
No status, w/ CC, 47.1K Based on these 2 limited DPs, it seems like CC discount outweighs any kind of status? So having a CC (mid tier) or P25K status gives you significant gains - its a way for AC to bind the loyalty in all three facets, travel, financial and misc spend (estore) P25K can be obtained from travel or/and from misc spend (CC + estore or other offline Partners by earning 100K AP points) or holding a cobranded financial product. So a tight association is rewarded by a significant discount in AC award pricing. Beyond that, the gains are meh at best. (Ie higher status or better credit card or multiple cards). Do they provide more gains, Yes. Are the gains significant- Not really |
Would be interesting to see some DPs using the above city pairs/dates from one without status AND w/o CC.
May be a rare find though.... |
Originally Posted by pentiumvi
(Post 32808263)
Would be interesting to see some DPs using the above city pairs/dates from one without status AND w/o CC.
May be a rare find though.... |
Proposal,
We all post same itineraries. All below are based on E35 + VIP (Premium Card). Sorted from low to high Peak (Dec 27th, 2020) 1) Domestic YUL - YVR https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...fb340eae69.png 2) Pacific https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...1b207fd641.png 3) Atlantic https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...a6b988df12.png 4) USA https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...323fcc1b8f.png Off Peak (June 8, 2021) 1) Domestic YUL - YVR https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...856549510d.png 2)Pacific https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...4dff3c1e16.png 3) Atlantic https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...91824afcad.png 4) USA https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...e782d0949e.png |
But wouldn't you also need to know the actual cash fare for those same flights to properly compare? I know there will always be debate as to what value someone else sees from a point/mile, but these changes were meant to equalize some of that, so do they actually? A headache all 'round is what I see.
**Wasn't posting this to start a debate, just wondering if cash values of the flights quoted could also be posted. |
Anyone have any ideas how they are going to implement redemptions for First Air? Was wondering if it was possible to get up north still..
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