Aug 12, 2020, 12:02 am
Last edit by: Adam Smith
You must call in for stopovers, multi-city, or complicated routings, until the new booking system launches in 2021.
I hope others will significantly improve this wiki!
There are four zones: North America (inc Central), South America, Atlantic (including India and Western Russia), Pacific (inc Eastern Russia) and the chart is based which one you start from and which one you end up in, there's ten of these.
Cost is based on distance, which zone pair your flight is in, which class you are flying in.
Partner airlines (again) are a better deal because while Air Canada will calculate cost on a wide ranges but partner airlines are fixed to the bottom of the range.
YQ is eliminated. There's a 39 CAD fee for booking a ticket which contains a flight on a partner airline. Aside from this, there's no incentive any more to book a return flight it seems and every incentive not to.
Note: The partner booking fee is refundable, so it's basically a YQ, rather than a booking fee.
Most flights are devalued. However, the elimination of YQ sweetens this significantly. Within North America, a lot of flights became cheaper, YVR-HNL very significantly. YVR-TYO is much cheaper while YVR-AKL is a little cheaper.
A vastly more powerful booking system is promised for 2021.
There are a lot of new tricks to be learned. https://princeoftravel.com/blog/new-aeroplan-flight-rewards/ is a good start.
Information that is harder to find:
I hope others will significantly improve this wiki!
There are four zones: North America (inc Central), South America, Atlantic (including India and Western Russia), Pacific (inc Eastern Russia) and the chart is based which one you start from and which one you end up in, there's ten of these.
Cost is based on distance, which zone pair your flight is in, which class you are flying in.
Partner airlines (again) are a better deal because while Air Canada will calculate cost on a wide ranges but partner airlines are fixed to the bottom of the range.
YQ is eliminated. There's a 39 CAD fee for booking a ticket which contains a flight on a partner airline. Aside from this, there's no incentive any more to book a return flight it seems and every incentive not to.
Note: The partner booking fee is refundable, so it's basically a YQ, rather than a booking fee.
Most flights are devalued. However, the elimination of YQ sweetens this significantly. Within North America, a lot of flights became cheaper, YVR-HNL very significantly. YVR-TYO is much cheaper while YVR-AKL is a little cheaper.
A vastly more powerful booking system is promised for 2021.
There are a lot of new tricks to be learned. https://princeoftravel.com/blog/new-aeroplan-flight-rewards/ is a good start.
Information that is harder to find:
- SE IKK redemption from the old program can be changed ("within reason") without repricing. Dates, routings, no problem. Origin/destination should be fine. But nothing that would have required a repricing under the old program. This is from Mark Nasr in https://www.facebook.com/pointsmiles...44878252851420
- The "Activity" page only shows you the most recent ~48 transactions. See this post for information on how to get older data.
- A partial refund may not be possible (e.g. if you book RT and outbound flight is cancelled by you or AC, to delete the first flight segment, you have to cancel the entire ticket and rebook the inbound at a potentially higher fare. It seems supervisor can grant exceptions.)
2020 Air Canada Aeroplan Program
Aug 11, 2020, 8:24 am
#76
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Massive devaluation? LOL. More fake news.
110/115 to 140 for J and 140/160 to 200 for F on Europe partners with the elimination of YQ is reasonable considering UA is already at 242K for RT First.
Considering LH YQ can be as much as US$1,200-$1,300 RT, Aeroplan has actually reduced award prices in many cases.
110/115 to 140 for J and 140/160 to 200 for F on Europe partners with the elimination of YQ is reasonable considering UA is already at 242K for RT First.
Considering LH YQ can be as much as US$1,200-$1,300 RT, Aeroplan has actually reduced award prices in many cases.
Aug 11, 2020, 8:25 am
#77
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Depends on your flight patterns. Go to Asia twice a year but not a lot of domestic travel in J and you quickly hit $20k in spend but could be at 40k AQM
Aug 11, 2020, 8:25 am
#78
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They have gone up in J. Some routes in Y have gone down. However there is a $39 partner booking fee.
Aug 11, 2020, 8:27 am
#79
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Hmmm. This post on OMAAT indicates that the earn rate for credit cards will be going down: 1 point for every $1.50 in spend.
https://onemileatatime.com/new-aeroplan-credit-cards/
The CIBC site outlines the new card features and benefits, but doesn't indicate that the earning rate will be reduced. I guess technically it isn't an improvement/feature but rather an enhancement.
https://onemileatatime.com/new-aeroplan-credit-cards/
The CIBC site outlines the new card features and benefits, but doesn't indicate that the earning rate will be reduced. I guess technically it isn't an improvement/feature but rather an enhancement.
Aug 11, 2020, 8:37 am
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Aug 11, 2020, 8:38 am
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Scroll upthread. Or just go to the CIBC/TD websites.
I'm inclined to think Lucky has got that one wrong. That's a pretty big change, it would be odd for TD and CIBC to both not disclose anything about it.
Hmmm. This post on OMAAT indicates that the earn rate for credit cards will be going down: 1 point for every $1.50 in spend.
https://onemileatatime.com/new-aeroplan-credit-cards/
The CIBC site outlines the new card features and benefits, but doesn't indicate that the earning rate will be reduced. I guess technically it isn't an improvement/feature but rather an enhancement.
https://onemileatatime.com/new-aeroplan-credit-cards/
The CIBC site outlines the new card features and benefits, but doesn't indicate that the earning rate will be reduced. I guess technically it isn't an improvement/feature but rather an enhancement.
Aug 11, 2020, 8:40 am
#82
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Hmmm. This post on OMAAT indicates that the earn rate for credit cards will be going down: 1 point for every $1.50 in spend.
https://onemileatatime.com/new-aeroplan-credit-cards/
The CIBC site outlines the new card features and benefits, but doesn't indicate that the earning rate will be reduced. I guess technically it isn't an improvement/feature but rather an enhancement.
https://onemileatatime.com/new-aeroplan-credit-cards/
The CIBC site outlines the new card features and benefits, but doesn't indicate that the earning rate will be reduced. I guess technically it isn't an improvement/feature but rather an enhancement.
The base TD/CIBC cards - not the Infinite/Privilege cards, earn at 1 Aeroplan point per $1.50 CAD. The Infinite/Privilege earn at 1 Aeroplan point per $1.00 CAD spend. I don't think there is any change there.
What is changing for the base TD/CIBC cards are the purchases of gas, groceries and for purchases at Air Canada - you can earn 1 Aeroplan point per $1.00 CAD on these categories. Infinite/Privilege cards have a different bonus attached to these categories.
Aug 11, 2020, 8:42 am
#83
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So no more scamcharges when booking on AC seems like the biggest benefit for us basic Aeroplan members.
Aug 11, 2020, 8:43 am
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Hmmm. This post on OMAAT indicates that the earn rate for credit cards will be going down: 1 point for every $1.50 in spend.
https://onemileatatime.com/new-aeroplan-credit-cards/
The CIBC site outlines the new card features and benefits, but doesn't indicate that the earning rate will be reduced. I guess technically it isn't an improvement/feature but rather an enhancement.
https://onemileatatime.com/new-aeroplan-credit-cards/
The CIBC site outlines the new card features and benefits, but doesn't indicate that the earning rate will be reduced. I guess technically it isn't an improvement/feature but rather an enhancement.
VIP:
Earn 1.5 Aeroplan points per $1 spent on two new bonus points categories, travel and dining, and 2 Aeroplan points per $1 spent with Air Canada directly, including through Air Canada Vacations
Earn 1.5 Aeroplan points per $1 spent on gas, groceries and with Air Canada directly, including through Air Canada Vacations
Earn 1 Aeroplan point per $1 spent on gas, groceries and with Air Canada directly, including through Air Canada Vacations
Aug 11, 2020, 8:47 am
#85
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So do existing Priority Rewards need to be "spent" prior to November 8th?
Aug 11, 2020, 8:49 am
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Aug 11, 2020, 8:55 am
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"As a credit cardholder, many premium airport services will be available to you with priority, ahead of a member with the same status who doesn’t have an eligible credit card."
Are they trying to force me into an Aeroplan card? Does this mean that I'm now a 3rd tier SE? (MM, cardholder, WTME)
Are they trying to force me into an Aeroplan card? Does this mean that I'm now a 3rd tier SE? (MM, cardholder, WTME)
Aug 11, 2020, 8:56 am
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Although if 1 point per $1 is a bonus, it implies the base earn rate is less.
For what it's worth, the most basic CIBC card already has a 1 mile per $1.50, so that wouldn't be a change. I suspect that there's nothing new here in the base earning rates on any of the cards.
Yes to both. I'm not sure where else this priority would apply other than eUps though, so "many" services sounds like a stretch.
For what it's worth, the most basic CIBC card already has a 1 mile per $1.50, so that wouldn't be a change. I suspect that there's nothing new here in the base earning rates on any of the cards.
"As a credit cardholder, many premium airport services will be available to you with priority, ahead of a member with the same status who doesn’t have an eligible credit card."
Are they trying to force me into an Aeroplan card? Does this mean that I'm now a 3rd tier SE? (MM, cardholder, WTME)
Are they trying to force me into an Aeroplan card? Does this mean that I'm now a 3rd tier SE? (MM, cardholder, WTME)
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Aug 11, 2020, 8:58 am
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Not true. With BAEC, when one person has activity, it extends the expiration for all family members.