Adam Smith

If it can result in being turned around upon arrival, shouldn't AC be making announcements before boarding?

RangerNS

Constitutional Catch-22. NS can't keep you out, let alone keep you from trying to get in, but can send you to isolation when you get here. Victorian powers designed at a time of communications with flags, or at best, mirrors reflecting light.

All things considered an AirBnB and SkipTheDishes is better than Lawlor Island.

FlY2XS

But you act like the interprovincial regs are easy to find or get flagged when booking a flight. With a necessary trip to Ontario coming, it is hard to reliably find the current measures that will be in place for me coming and going. Many articles are from March, and much has changed since then. Best National summary I could find was 2 weeks old. To be fair, PEI government site is clear and idiot proof.
You can book a flight from YVR to YYG departing tonight with zero warnings. Go ahead, try it. Don't you think the carrier should have some knowledge or forewarn of this? Maybe it pops up if I put my money down, but I didn't go that far.
In the old days of international travel, non desirables were turned around at the border with the in bound carriers carrying the cost of flying them back so carriers stayed abreast of and ensured entrance requirements, sometimes more stringently than the countries themselves.

canadiancow

What happens if I, a Canadian citizen, book a flight to YYG? Are they going to ... deport me? To my province of residence? I have none. And they can't deport me out of my only country of citizenship.

FlY2XS

Well, they could give you the choice of returning to where you came from or agreeing to an isolation plan for 14 days that some jurisdictions aka Provinces are having police enforce. This is actually happening, but there are about a thousand loopholes and yes, some have argued it is unconstitutional.
If you know what I mean; "my wife's cousin knows a guy who knows a guy" that merely declares themselves as an essential worker without ever being pressed to provide the essential credentials (which they have) or the actual proof of the work which they couldn't.

eigenvector

Do you also expect to pay and potentially not even get to point B but still not get your money back? Because that's the service AC currently offers.

You can book an itinerary, AC may or may not operate it and they'll keep your money either way.

That's about as low as you can go.

canadiancow

Or take it a step further.

What do you currently get in J that you don't get in Y?

Usually it's guaranteed space from your neighbor, lounge access, hot food, drinks, etc. Right now, you get none of that.

What about someone paying for Basic or Standard or Flex or Comfort or Latitude? Does LT get the advertised drink and snack? Does CO get the advertised drink?

Any argument about "you're paying A to B" falls flat on its face as soon as you just look at BA/TG/FL/CO/LT. You're paying for a lot more than just transportation.

Even if they get you from A to B doesn't mean they've fulfilled their contract.

acysb87

I have 3 latitude flights passes that are nearly full. AC has my dollars and has extended pass.
Would AC consider refunding those? Just asking as I believe I will eventually just need to "use em or lose em"

RangerNS

Quoting myself from somewhere, "constitutional catch-22". The GoC can not restrict movement of Canadians into, out of, or within Canada. Wheras AC has landing rights in foreign lands contingent on taking illegals home, there are no such provisions for domestic travel. No Provincial government can prevent you from entering, and they won't push you back on the aircraft like Elbonia would.

With various degrees of "suggesting", "asking" and "forcing", provincial medical officers may require self-isolation on arrival.

AC won't be on the hook for your problems.

BlondeBomber

The only thing I can think is that the longer this drags on, the more likely they will be amenable to extending further or having "unlimited" expiry on existing (not new) passes.

acysb87

"unlimited" expiry would be OK by me.

canadiancow

I doubt they'd do unlimited, but I could easily see making the expiry date 12 months after non-essential travel is officially allowed "everywhere". Much easier than doing anything case-by-case.

tracon

Speaking of YYG. I've got a flight there next week that I haven't gotten around to cancelling/changing.
Today I got an e-mail from Jazz YYG ops...........

Dear passenger,

You are receiving this email because you have a reservation for travel in the next coming days for a flight between Montreal and Charlottetown. As of April 17, 2020 at 0800, the province of PEI is under the Provincial State of Emergency. It is recommended that pre-travel approval be obtained before travelling to PEI as all unnecessary travel into PEI is prohibited.

To receive preapproval please email [email protected] or 902-894-0385; responses can be expected will be 8 am to 4 pm.

Please visit the Prince Edward Island web site for more information.

Regards,

Air Canada operation

acysb87

Received a note from AC yesterday. My June 24th flights to BC and return were cancelled. FP credit will be issued and ecredits restored.
I am now at zero bookings with 3 active Flight passes and no where to go.

FlY2XS

Well, just booked a flight to YYZ using my credits. Took about an hour of my life on the phone to achieve. NO way around the 3 minute blurb that tells you how clean they are keeping the planes and that they aren't refunding non refundable flights they have cancelled as per government guidelines. Suggesting that the guidelines wouldn't let them do refunds. Then come June 14 I can get a travel credit or Aeroplan bonus LUCKY ME!.

Bad news: flights just drop off the map with no warning. In the 10 minutes it took to get connected to an agent, the flight I wanted ceased to exist. It didn't fill up, just went away. Agent says this just happens without warning even to them. So now almost 3 hours to kill in YVR with no MLL.
Cost more than my initial PE booking for economy but granted I was booking barely one week out and PE was booked at a discount months ago. Longer range bookings were inexpensive but who knows the odds they still exist at the time on the day I want/need to fly?

Good news: eUpgrades were readily available and discounted which seems fair given the lack of amenities in P or J. $$ fare was typical for the latter, though.
Will have to report back once I have made the trip.