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canadiancow Jan 31, 20 10:36 pm

Unofficial AC PNR Viewing Tool (aka cowtool)
 
Given how many people are having issues pulling up PNRs or figuring out why they can't change seats, etc., I did some searching. Amadeus is used by so many airlines, there are actually some interesting data sources available.

As such, I've cobbled some stuff together.

https://api.ft.canadiancow.com/pnr/pnr

Enter your booking reference and last name, and you'll get a nice little screen of information. I promise I am not logging anything.

Here's one example, showing I have a TK segment, which explains why I can't do anything on AC's site (I need to call again :rolleyes:):
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...4995039628.png


Here's another where the first segment has a stop (I've always found it a pain to get those details). This shows an older format, because I cancelled this booking after making some changes to the display.

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...14c57a8131.png
As usual with this stuff, I make no guarantees it will work now or ever. If it fails once, just refresh. If it keeps failing and you want to help, PM me the booking ref and last name.

I'm also happy to take requests for other data you might want to see.

pentiumvi Feb 1, 20 1:41 am

Since AC has now migrated to Amadeus, logically we should be able to pull up our PNRs using checkmytrip right?

Anyone else experiencing pre-Amadeus bookings that cannot be found using the new Amadeus PNR on checkmytrip?

OttawaMark Feb 1, 20 7:01 am


Originally Posted by canadiancow (Post 32019047)
If this just gets buried in here while also proving to be useful enough, I'll make a new thread.

But given how many people are having issues pulling up PNRs or figuring out why they can't change seats, etc., I did some searching. Amadeus is used by so many airlines, there are actually some interesting and open data sources available.

As such, I've cobbled a some stuff together.

https://api.ft.canadiancow.com/pnr/p...3&lastName=Cow

Replace the booking reference and last name with your own details, and you'll get a nice little screen of information. I promise I am not logging anything.

Here's one example, showing I have a TK segment, which explains why I can't do anything on AC's site (I need to call again :rolleyes:):

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...83fb7fcf51.png

Here's another where the first segment has a stop (I've always found it a pain to get those details).

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...14c57a8131.png
As usual with this stuff, I make no guarantees it will work now or ever. If it fails once, just refresh. If it keeps failing and you want to help, PM me the booking ref and last name.

I'm also happy to take requests for other data you might want to see. Seat selections, etc.


An error occurred. Check your input and try again (and yes I used real data)

Adam Smith Feb 1, 20 7:43 am


Originally Posted by canadiancow (Post 32019047)
If this just gets buried in here while also proving to be useful enough, I'll make a new thread.

But given how many people are having issues pulling up PNRs or figuring out why they can't change seats, etc., I did some searching. Amadeus is used by so many airlines, there are actually some interesting and open data sources available.

As such, I've cobbled a some stuff together.

https://api.ft.canadiancow.com/pnr/p...3&lastName=Cow

Replace the booking reference and last name with your own details, and you'll get a nice little screen of information. I promise I am not logging anything.

Here's one example, showing I have a TK segment, which explains why I can't do anything on AC's site (I need to call again :rolleyes:):

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...83fb7fcf51.png

Here's another where the first segment has a stop (I've always found it a pain to get those details).

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...14c57a8131.png
As usual with this stuff, I make no guarantees it will work now or ever. If it fails once, just refresh. If it keeps failing and you want to help, PM me the booking ref and last name.

I'm also happy to take requests for other data you might want to see. Seat selections, etc.

Thanks, cow :D

I think this may be worthy of its own thread.

Have you spent any time playing around on other airlines' sites to see whether it's possible to use, let's say, the LH site to accept the change and move a segment back from TK to HK?

canopus27 Feb 1, 20 8:06 am


Originally Posted by OttawaMark (Post 32019975)
An error occurred. Check your input and try again (and yes I used real data)

I believe you ... but as another data point, it's working fine for me.


Originally Posted by Adam Smith (Post 32020080)
Thanks, cow :D

I think this may be worthy of its own thread.

Seconded, on both points.


Originally Posted by Adam Smith (Post 32020080)
Have you spent any time playing around on other airlines' sites to see whether it's possible to use, let's say, the LH site to accept the change and move a segment back from TK to HK?

We don't need cow to answer that question ... I also have a flight in TK state, and so I just tried on lufthansa.com. No joy.

Meanwhile, I assume the cow's using the Amadeus self-serve APIs (awesome find, BTW), and those appear to all be read-only - so a great way to find information out, but AFAIK no changes can be made without using the Enterprise APIs - which require dollars and permission to access.

Stranger Feb 1, 20 8:14 am

Works here too. One difference: should say "Scottmr" on the name line. At lest it does for me...

canopus27 Feb 1, 20 8:20 am


Originally Posted by Stranger (Post 32020170)
Works here too. One difference: should say "Scottmr" on the name line. At lest it does for me...

Interesting. My name displays in the same format (full name, with a space, and no embedded "mr") that cow's example is.

BTW, I just called in to AC to get my locked ticket, unlocked. Hit refresh on cow's tool as soon as the agent made the change, and the TK had changed to HK in real time. Which is, perhaps, not surprising .... but useful confirmation that there does not appear to be any delay in the API.

Adam Smith Feb 1, 20 8:27 am


Originally Posted by canopus27 (Post 32020146)
We don't need cow to answer that question ... I also have a flight in TK state, and so I just tried on lufthansa.com. No joy.

Tried any others?

canopus27 Feb 1, 20 8:27 am


Originally Posted by Adam Smith (Post 32020199)
Tried any others?

Have you? ;)

canopus27 Feb 1, 20 8:36 am

OK, I've now tried Lufthansa, United, Nippon (all whom are star and use Amadeus), Delta (who use Amadeus but are not Star), and Swiss (who don't use Amadeus but are Star) .... and none let me access my ticket. Can't say I'm surprised ... but I tried.

RangerNS Feb 1, 20 8:40 am

Works for me.

Only quick comment is that the fare basis doesn't show the discount extension (I'm sure there is some industry term idk). H3Q9CO vs H3Q9CO/8N15.

Saudia shows this, so just another mapping to add?

OttawaMark Feb 1, 20 11:36 am


Originally Posted by canopus27 (Post 32020233)
OK, I've now tried Lufthansa, United, Nippon (all whom are star and use Amadeus), Delta (who use Amadeus but are not Star), and Swiss (who don't use Amadeus but are Star) .... and none let me access my ticket. Can't say I'm surprised ... but I tried.

To be fair I was trying to look up a WS reservation (I believe WS use Amadeus).

daniellam Feb 1, 20 12:03 pm


Originally Posted by OttawaMark (Post 32020793)
To be fair I was trying to look up a WS reservation (I believe WS use Amadeus).

WS does not use Amadeus. They use Sabre.

daniellam Feb 1, 20 12:05 pm


Originally Posted by canopus27 (Post 32020233)
OK, I've now tried Lufthansa, United, Nippon (all whom are star and use Amadeus), Delta (who use Amadeus but are not Star), and Swiss (who don't use Amadeus but are Star) .... and none let me access my ticket. Can't say I'm surprised ... but I tried.

United does not use Amadeus. They use SHARES.

Delta does not use
Amadeus. They have their own internal system.

SWISS migrated to Amadeus some years ago.

tcook052 Feb 1, 20 7:15 pm

Please note these posts were carved out of the master Amadeus communications issues thread.

tcook052
AC forum mod.


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