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Master thread COVID-19/Coronavirus; travel waivers, route changes, AC impacts

Old Jan 27, 20, 4:42 pm
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Key points of AC COVID change/cancellation policy [as of December 10, 2021]:
(see this page under "Changes and cancellations")

Unlimited changes. No change fees. Until December 31, 2021, if you want to change your flight, we'll waive the change fee. After December 31, 2021, you can make one change at no extra charge. If your new fare has a higher price, you only need to pay the difference from your original fare.

If Air Canada changes the time of your flight, you make a change for free.*
*Within 3 days for North American destinations and 7 days for international and sun destinations.

If your flight is cancelled, you get a refund If your flight is cancelled for any reason and we dont rebook you on another flight that departs or arrives within three hours of your original departure or arrival time, or if we add a connection to your itinerary, you can request a refund.

Need to cancel? Save the value for future travel If you need to cancel a booking, the full value can be transferred to an Air Canada Travel Voucher, which never expires and is fully transferrable, or converted into Aeroplan points with a 65% bonus. Refundable tickets are always refundable.

Flexibility with Aeroplan bookings Until December 31, 2021, if you want to change your Aeroplan flight reward, we'll waive all change fees. After December 31, 2021, you can still make one change without a fee.
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Master thread COVID-19/Coronavirus; travel waivers, route changes, AC impacts

Old May 9, 20, 12:55 pm
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Join Date: Nov 2018
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Originally Posted by beanie72
Thank you for the quick reply, Adam. I appreciate it I hope I can be patient as you.
I have had refunds come relatively quickly (both AC and Aeroplan). I did have an Aeroplan booking with the taxes not yet refunded. I gave them a call and the agent graciously pushed it through this am. It seems that things have quieted down a fair bit so calling an agent may not be as big an issue. You may wish to try this and see where the refund is in the queue. I have had all my outstanding refunds processed and credited back to my AMEX..
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Old May 9, 20, 1:35 pm
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Originally Posted by tracon
That formula also applies to YVR, YYZ and YUL this month.
In YYC's case, you could further expand that out and include International/Transborder together and it still applies.
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Old May 9, 20, 7:36 pm
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Originally Posted by expert7700
​​​​​​You"re right, in the past it has been quick. 24-48hrs

I cancelled a trip Monday after it became obvious that the A220 to SJC wasn't happenning . They told me even as Super Elite, the refund dept for taxes/fees is running a 4 to 6 weeks backlog.
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Thank you! It was good you got some information first hand.
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Old May 9, 20, 7:38 pm
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Originally Posted by EdmFlyBoi
I have had refunds come relatively quickly (both AC and Aeroplan). I did have an Aeroplan booking with the taxes not yet refunded. I gave them a call and the agent graciously pushed it through this am. It seems that things have quieted down a fair bit so calling an agent may not be as big an issue. You may wish to try this and see where the refund is in the queue. I have had all my outstanding refunds processed and credited back to my AMEX..
Good advice! Unrelated company but I called RBC thinking I was going to be hold for awhile however I got right through so I will give AE a call.
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Old May 9, 20, 7:39 pm
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Originally Posted by Bartolo
i got the points back immediately after the call. Taxes etc within 2 days on the credit card. Bonus AE agent was wonderful to deal with.
Yeah, I did my online as I didn't want to be on hold for ever however another poster said the phone lines seemed to have died down. I will try them tomorrow (Sunday) morning.
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Old May 10, 20, 12:27 pm
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Originally Posted by Taoyuan
Looks like TPE is zeroed out for winter even though the cancelation page shows it resuming in late October?
TPE schedule formally announced and won't resume until March 27, 2021. Suspect we will see other suspensions for northern winter.

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38...te-march-2021/
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Old May 10, 20, 1:03 pm
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Originally Posted by Mikey Mike Mike
I'd like some advice please - or at least the options i have. My partner and I are due to fly to London at the end of July to intern my mother's ashes. We booked in February for 5 nights or so in Economy on a flex fare. I realise that the stars have to line up so both Canada and the UK don't have a ban in place. Also, given it was a short trip, quarantine may be in place in the UK AND on our return, it makes the trip unviable. I can't recall what T&Cs that AC may have had in at the time for peace of mind if any.

When do I cancel if I need to, how much does it cost and I assume it's a credit note

thanks in advance
Don't cancel yet, wait until the very last day or two and hopefully the airline will have cancelled first.


The UK Civil Aviation Authority is on your side:

BBC - Coronavirus: Airlines warned over passenger refund rights
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Old May 10, 20, 4:21 pm
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Originally Posted by fftransform
Looks like the A220 SJC-YYZ new route launch is a victim of the coronavirus. No direct flights are showing up in search results well into the future. Postponed indefinitely I suppose; doesn't make sense to keep it bookable for any time soon.
This is the only AC flight I had in the future (thankfully!). Rerouted via YVR, adding 5 hours to the trip.
Of course no refund. Even though the flight is over 3 months from now, they are citing "government advisory"
DOT complaint filed. How does AC get away with breaking US law like this?
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Old May 10, 20, 11:02 pm
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Join Date: May 2020
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Hi all,

Was booked on economy standard to fly to FRA on 872/873 2-MAY to 18-MAY, cancelled back in early March. If I were to use my voucher to purchase a latitude ticket and pay the difference, could I then request a refund per latitude fare rules all back onto my original CC?

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Old May 10, 20, 11:51 pm
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Originally Posted by 1182144
Hi all,

Was booked on economy standard to fly to FRA on 872/873 2-MAY to 18-MAY, cancelled back in early March. If I were to use my voucher to purchase a latitude ticket and pay the difference, could I then request a refund per latitude fare rules all back onto my original CC?
Welcome to FT

No, what you're asking isn't possible. The original amount remains subject to the refund rules of the original ticket. If you changed to Latitude, you would probably be able to get back the difference between your original ticket and the Latitude one, but not the original amount.

Did AC cancel your flights, or did you cancel the booking before AC cancelled anything?
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Old May 11, 20, 12:27 am
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Originally Posted by Adam Smith
Welcome to FT

No, what you're asking isn't possible. The original amount remains subject to the refund rules of the original ticket. If you changed to Latitude, you would probably be able to get back the difference between your original ticket and the Latitude one, but not the original amount.

Did AC cancel your flights, or did you cancel the booking before AC cancelled anything?
they still operate the flight. But Im not willing to quarantine in another country. They pretty much said what you had mentioned. H.U.C.A and the second lady told me to email customer relations and ask for my Credit to be converted to an e-coupon (eliminating the fare policy restrictions.)
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Old May 11, 20, 12:51 am
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Originally Posted by 1182144
they still operate the flight. But Im not willing to quarantine in another country.
No right to a refund then, unfortunately.

They pretty much said what you had mentioned. H.U.C.A and the second lady told me to email customer relations and ask for my Credit to be converted to an e-coupon (eliminating the fare policy restrictions.)
I think that's the first time anyone has mentioned that. If you choose to do that, please let us know what you hear from customer relations and whether you do end up with an eCoupon, which is definitely a better outcome. But given the lack of track record for that, I wouldn't hold my breath.
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Old May 11, 20, 10:21 am
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I looked through a fair number of previous responsed but could not seem to find an answer to this. I understand that if I book an non-refundable fare I will be given a travel credit if I cancel or if Air Canada cancels the flight. The question I have is what if I book an itinerary of 4 tickets for my family and the tickets are cancelled? Say the tickets cost $2000 for the four. Do I have to apply that $2000 to 4 new tickets at some point for all of us to fly together, or can I use the $2000 to book any combination of ticekts for myself or anyone else until the money is used up? Thanks.
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Old May 11, 20, 10:32 am
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Originally Posted by gspurr
I looked through a fair number of previous responsed but could not seem to find an answer to this. I understand that if I book an non-refundable fare I will be given a travel credit if I cancel or if Air Canada cancels the flight. The question I have is what if I book an itinerary of 4 tickets for my family and the tickets are cancelled? Say the tickets cost $2000 for the four. Do I have to apply that $2000 to 4 new tickets at some point for all of us to fly together, or can I use the $2000 to book any combination of ticekts for myself or anyone else until the money is used up?
The credit is tied to the ticket, so each person will have their own credit for $2,000. You can book one new itinerary with all four people and use the credit for each one, or each person could use the credit to book different flights (e.g. person A could book a YYZ-Europe trip, person B could book a YYZ-Asia trip, etc). Credits are non-transferable, so person A's credit has to be used for person A.

Also note that the credit has to be used all in one go. Book a flight for $1,500, and you don't have $500 remaining, you forfeit that amount. Of course, if the new ticket costs $2,200, you pay the $200 out of pocket. Heads AC wins, tails you lose.

There are reports upthread (or in the credits vs refunds thread) that AC is working on a new system that would be more flexible, but that's how it is at the moment.
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Old May 11, 20, 12:07 pm
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I had a flight cancelled in March, it was a refundable fare and at the time was told my refund request would be added to queue and I could expect it in 6-8 weeks. It has now been more than 8 weeks so I called AC. They could not find the reservation by confirmation code or ticket number and told me to just keep waiting. Is anyone in the same boat?
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