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codfather Jan 21, 2020 6:51 am


Originally Posted by YYT82 (Post 31976632)
Air Canada should contract the Canadian Forces Hercules to clear the backlog NOW. Military aircrafts are allowed, no? :D

If this drags on and the airport is closed to commercial air traffic into next week, I might have my dad booked to come in through YQX. Roads in CBS and beyond are much better.

Hahaha as an AV geek, I approve of this message :D

CBC The National anchor Adrienne Arsenault flew into YQX the other day before driving to YYT. The National was live from Georgestown neighbourhood last night!

AtlanticXpat Jan 21, 2020 11:14 am

I would assume YYT reopening is directly linked to the State of Emergency in St John's. SOE still in effect, pax and staff can't get to or from the airport. Now as of today you could probably drive from CBS, Paradise, Mt Pearl (all of whom have suspended their SOE during the day time) to YYT with no issues but there you go! I'm due to fly out of YYT on a trip next Weds. Chances of that happening I wonder?!

yytleisure Jan 21, 2020 11:50 am

Yea it’s all about the state of the roads. Putting airport traffic on the streets now is not a good idea. Same reason schools are closed to next week, university shut, and restaurants and retail too.

Highways and main roads are doing pretty good but city streets are definitely not. If an ambulance of fire truck needs access the slightest traffic is going to snarl up the whole place. They still need to get food shipments moving, fuel trucks going... etc. It’s still gonna be a while getting back to normal here.

SparseFlyer Jan 21, 2020 11:58 am

Anyone feels like creating a Wiki and dumping s bunch of pictures in it that show the extent of the blizzard?

AtlanticXpat Jan 21, 2020 12:05 pm


Originally Posted by SparseFlyer (Post 31977987)
Anyone feels like creating a Wiki and dumping s bunch of pictures in it that show the extent of the blizzard?

Lots of stuff on social media (FB, Twitter, You Tube). Plus CBC, CTV etc. But here are a few pics for flavour...
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...34d76ada3.jpeg
This is the main arterial highway into St Johns!
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...d538e2db3.jpeg
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...163815d78.jpeg

AtlanticXpat Jan 21, 2020 12:33 pm

Update: Airport reopens 5.00am tomorrow (Wednesday)

https://vocm.com/2020/01/21/city-of-...esday-morning/

yytleisure Jan 21, 2020 1:01 pm

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...800a3f5475.png
This is one of Peter Cowans. I hope it’s ok to put here it’s in twitterland. Shows the line up for a grocery store in centre cite St John’s today. Really shows you how extraordinary this is. We average 300cm+ Snow a year so it’s not like we’re newbs at this

Originally Posted by SparseFlyer (Post 31977987)
Anyone feels like creating a Wiki and dumping s bunch of pictures in it that show the extent of the blizzard?

look up a couple journos in St. John’s. Peter cowan at CBC has a mini drone and tweeted a bunch. Google #nlwx or #snowmaggedon2020 or #nltraffic

YYT82 Jan 21, 2020 1:52 pm


Originally Posted by yytleisure (Post 31978266)
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...800a3f5475.png
This is one of Peter Cowans. I hope it’s ok to put here it’s in twitterland. Shows the line up for a grocery store in centre cite St John’s today. Really shows you how extraordinary this is. We average 300cm+ Snow a year so it’s not like we’re newbs at this

But 220+ cm fell since Christmas Eve. The single day snowfall record was broken, and my neighbours who had lived here for decades even say this is unusual.

Air Canada has switched a couple of flights from E90 to A321 for tomorrow. Hope food shipments come in over the next day or two, grocery store shelves are running out of fresh produce.

codfather Jan 21, 2020 2:15 pm

Looks like YYT is allowing some commercial aircraft to land before the SOE is lifted (for flight ops)!

I can hear two Dash 8s flying overhead right now, likely repositioning for flights tomorrow morning!

codfather Jan 21, 2020 2:16 pm


Originally Posted by YYT82 (Post 31978448)
But 220+ cm fell since Christmas Eve. The single day snowfall record was broken, and my neighbours who had lived here for decades even say this is unusual.

Air Canada has switched a couple of flights from E90 to A321 for tomorrow. Hope food shipments come in over the next day or two, grocery store shelves are running out of fresh produce.

I wonder if AC is afraid to send any jumbo jets out of fear they could get stuck here? I was shocked to see that we are only getting a few A321s after five days of cancellations.

In the past, we have received a wide-body aircraft after just one day of cancellations!

AtlanticXpat Jan 21, 2020 2:32 pm


Originally Posted by codfather (Post 31978552)
I wonder if AC is afraid to send any jumbo jets out of fear they could get stuck here? I was shocked to see that we are only getting a few A321s after five days of cancellations.

In the past, we have received a wide-body aircraft after just one day of cancellations!

Firstly, Jumbo jets? Wide bodies but no Jumbos :-)

Secondly, patience my young Padawan. Wide Bodies will come once airport opening is assured. Weather looks settled for the immediate future so less risk of getting a/c trapped here.

codfather Jan 21, 2020 2:36 pm


Originally Posted by AtlanticXpat (Post 31978627)
Firstly, Jumbo jets? Wide bodies but no Jumbos :-)

Secondly, patience my young Padawan. Wide Bodies will come once airport opening is assured. Weather looks settled for the immediate future so less risk of getting a/c trapped here.

Sorry xpat! should have stuck to the one word lol, I am getting a bit eager!

Seeing as how I don't have work tomorrow given the SOE, I might need to make an "emergency" trip to the airport.

Now, of course, I am not going out just to take photos of whatever B777/A330/B787 that ends up flying here...

YYT82 Jan 21, 2020 2:38 pm


Originally Posted by codfather (Post 31978552)
I wonder if AC is afraid to send any jumbo jets out of fear they could get stuck here? I was shocked to see that we are only getting a few A321s after five days of cancellations.

In the past, we have received a wide-body aircraft after just one day of cancellations!

Look at the scheduling before the blizzard, two or three E90s a day mixed with one A320 and one A321, and most flights weren't booked full. A321 would be enough to clear some backlog. In addition, due to the MAX debacle, most widebodies need some rest and maintenance, sending them here while risking getting stuck here would not be in AC's best interest.

I would love for the Canadian Forces to bring in essential food supplies using their jumbo transports though. The harbour spaces are needed for dumping snow.

Edit: AC is still selling seats on the A321s coming in tomorrow, so obviously A321s are enough to clear the backlog.

yytleisure Jan 21, 2020 2:41 pm


Originally Posted by YYT82 (Post 31978448)
But 220+ cm fell since Christmas Eve. The single day snowfall record was broken, and my neighbours who had lived here for decades even say this is unusual.

Air Canada has switched a couple of flights from E90 to A321 for tomorrow. Hope food shipments come in over the next day or two, grocery store shelves are running out of fresh produce.

sorry my meaning was more along the lines of if this extraordinary event is happening in St. John’s, where we are used to handling snow, it really is amazing to see those kinds of lines at our stores. I’m not in any way minimizing it. I have a few decades experience here I’m a lifelong townie and this is the worst I’ve seen as well. Apologies if I wasn’t clear.

AtlanticXpat Jan 22, 2020 9:17 am

AC tweeted to the effect that they are adding 1200 additional seats to YYT in the next day or so. According to FR24, I don't see any widebody flights but every flight is upgraded to A321 from E90 etc. Not sure how quickly that would add up to 1200 extra seats?


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