AC2414 late arriving and now sitting on the tarmac at PHX
Jan 13, 2020, 2:11 pm
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AC2414 late arriving and now sitting on the tarmac at PHX
Really a question. Would AC only have access to a limited number of gates at PHX? We departed YVR late due to late incoming aircraft so arrived late at PHX. Now we've a 30 minute wait on the taxi way as there is an AC aircraft at our gate. Given that PHX isn't a small airport and I would have thought that other gates would open up, is it that there are only a couple of gates that AC has access to?
Jan 13, 2020, 2:19 pm
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Ms. Boh was on the same flight as you in Row 25.
Like you said, the flight leaving late caused them to lose a gate slot. I seem to recall maybe two AC gates at PHX, but I could be wrong.
Like you said, the flight leaving late caused them to lose a gate slot. I seem to recall maybe two AC gates at PHX, but I could be wrong.
Jan 13, 2020, 2:29 pm
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Good point about the staffing. The post at least let me have a rant without it coming across as a rant!
First time I've been on a leased Omni flight. Unusual staffing, half Omni, half AC. Just learnt that we're about to move to the gate.
First time I've been on a leased Omni flight. Unusual staffing, half Omni, half AC. Just learnt that we're about to move to the gate.
Jan 13, 2020, 4:15 pm
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Really a question. Would AC only have access to a limited number of gates at PHX? We departed YVR late due to late incoming aircraft so arrived late at PHX. Now we've a 30 minute wait on the taxi way as there is an AC aircraft at our gate. Given that PHX isn't a small airport and I would have thought that other gates would open up, is it that there are only a couple of gates that AC has access to?
) has given a detailed answer, but yes, at any airport, an airline only has access to whatever gates it... has access to. I've had multiple multi-hour delays at IAH because AC only had access to one or two gates at that time and they were in use by other aircraft (YYC always gets the shaft vs the YYZ/YUL flights).This just isn't as noticeable at places like YYZ or YVR where AC controls so many gates that it has significant flexibility. But at outstations, it can definitely be an issue.
Having met Mrs. Boh a few weeks ago and found her to be lovely, I'm shocked that you would make her suffer the deprivation of flying rouge Y!
Jan 13, 2020, 4:22 pm
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But I've never flown on OAI, so she is one up on me.
Jan 17, 2020, 8:45 am
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In a bit of a coda to the original post, Ms. Boh is on the return flight (AC 2415) today. Which has been delayed 2:30 due to "mechanical issues" (i.e. the dog ate my homework, so no comp).
The interesting thing for me is that I think I found a new winner in the AC OTP race for the bottom. According to EF, this flight is On Time 5% of the time with an average delay of 54 minutes. Wow!
I think I shall avoid flying AC to PHX any time soon. Or maybe ever.
The interesting thing for me is that I think I found a new winner in the AC OTP race for the bottom. According to EF, this flight is On Time 5% of the time with an average delay of 54 minutes. Wow!
I think I shall avoid flying AC to PHX any time soon. Or maybe ever.
Jan 17, 2020, 10:04 am
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While PHX certainly is a large airport, it is a small outstation for AC and AC only has routine access to the gates it leases. There certainly are emergency situations where the aircraft could be assigned to another carrier's gate or even offloaded at a remote holding area, but that certainly would not be in the timeframes here absent some compelling reason. It is also a bit of a toss-up because it would be close to inconceiveable at any airport such as PHX for AC to use another carrier's gate for a departure. Thus, the aircraft would have to be moved to its departure gate and that takes time to arrange and execute, thus delaying the departure of that aircraft even further.