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Claiming compensation from AC under APPR (Air Passenger Protection Regulations)

Old Aug 24, 22, 2:47 pm
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There are several threads on compensation for delayed/cancelled flights operated by AC.

If your question is about APPR (Canadian regulations), this is the correct thread.

For information regarding which regime(s) you're eligible for compensation under, or which would be more favourable, please see: Air Canada Compensation For Delayed/Cancelled Flights

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Claiming compensation from AC under APPR (Air Passenger Protection Regulations)

Old Mar 10, 20, 11:50 am
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Originally Posted by Altaflyer View Post
Got a reply from AC denying a claim for a cancelled flight where the inbound originated in YYZ (cancelled there), presumably the largest crew base. Reason stated in email at time of cancellation “crew constraints” now it’s safety re mechanical. Offered a lesser amount in Air Canada “money”. Declined and requested compensation under the regs. Await reply.
UPDATE: I sent another email today to follow up the one noted above. Shockingly an hour or so later I received a confirmation that $400 draft is being sent via mail. So, success!! Hope others have similar luck!
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Old Mar 10, 20, 12:13 pm
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Has anyone not received a reply within a few weeks? I went back through my emails and can't find an acknowledgement of the complaint, so maybe I need to file a second time
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Old Mar 10, 20, 12:34 pm
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Originally Posted by Altaflyer View Post
UPDATE: I sent another email today to follow up the one noted above. Shockingly an hour or so later I received a confirmation that $400 draft is being sent via mail. So, success!! Hope others have similar luck!
So the trick is to spam them with complaints until one sticks, in a HUCA kind of strategy..
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Old Mar 17, 20, 9:50 pm
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Just a question here. I put in a claim about 25 days ago related a flight delayed by 12+ hours. I received an auto email saying it was received related to the Air Transport regulation and that I should rest assured, they will respond within 30 days.

Is there a requirement they respond within 30 days? What happens if they don't?
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Old Mar 17, 20, 9:59 pm
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Originally Posted by bocastephen View Post
Has anyone not received a reply within a few weeks? I went back through my emails and can't find an acknowledgement of the complaint, so maybe I need to file a second time
Update: I received a reply with the standard "it's for safety" nonsense, but with a $200 voucher. I pushed back on the "safety" aspect with a play-by-play description of what happened and pushed for my full $1,000 so we will see what they come back with.
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Old Mar 17, 20, 10:08 pm
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Originally Posted by bocastephen View Post
Update: I received a reply with the standard "it's for safety" nonsense, but with a $200 voucher. I pushed back on the "safety" aspect with a play-by-play description of what happened and pushed for my full $1,000 so we will see what they come back with.
My wife just received a mail telling them the cheque is in the mail. Subsequent to a first rejection followed by an e-mail telling them that the first response focused upon the wrong flight. Now I sent them a similar e-mail about my own flight, same itinerary, also initially rejected.

Mind you, at this point, given that they'll likely need taxpayer's support just to survive, I almost was ready to give up...
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Old Mar 17, 20, 10:10 pm
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Old Mar 18, 20, 11:52 am
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Originally Posted by Stranger View Post
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Mind you, at this point, given that they'll likely need taxpayer's support just to survive, I almost was ready to give up...
They are a corporation, not a person or a friend - corporations do not get, nor deserve, sympathy. I will squeeze that $1,000 out of them if I need to drag AC to LA County small claims court.
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Old Mar 30, 20, 6:49 am
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Originally Posted by Altaflyer View Post
UPDATE: I sent another email today to follow up the one noted above. Shockingly an hour or so later I received a confirmation that $400 draft is being sent via mail. So, success!! Hope others have similar luck!
Hey..Did you reply directly to the rejection email you received, or did you fill out the complaint form on the website? I had a flight cancellation, 02/26 in YYZ, which started as a slight delay due to inbound's delay (weather), then an APU issue, then crew timeout. The flight was cancelled as they could not locate another crew, otherwise the flight was going to continue per the Captain. The app indicates "Crew Contraints" as reason, and we were all given vouchers. AC rejected my claim based on "safety risk" and gave a coupon, and stated whichever was the greatest factor leading to the cancellation is the one they use under the regulations to determine compensation eligibility, I replied directly to the rejection email I received with my counter argument, but no reply as of yet.
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Old Feb 2, 21, 7:56 am
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Air Canada ordered to pay Comox Valley family $3,000 over missed flight under new regulations

Interesting read. Air passenger protection regulations resulted in a favorable outcome for this family.

Air Canada ordered to pay Comox Valley family $3,000 over missed flight under new regulations | Times Colonist

From Canadian Transportation Agency on first phase of regulations as of July 15 2019:

The new regulations, a major CTA regulatory initiative, require airlines to meet certain obligations towards passengers, such as:
  • communicating to passengers, in a simple, clear way, information on their rights and recourses and regular updates in the event of flight delays and cancellations;
  • providing compensation of up to $2,400 for bumping a passenger for reasons within the airlines’ control;
  • ensuring passengers receive prescribed standards of treatment during all tarmac delays and allowing them to leave the airplane, when it’s safe to do so, if a tarmac delay lasts for over three hours and there is no prospect of an imminent take-off;
  • providing compensation for lost or damaged baggage of up to $2,100 and a refund of any baggage fees; and
  • setting clear policies for transporting musical instruments.
New Air Passenger Protection Regulations now in force | Canadian Transportation Agency (otc-cta.gc.ca)

2nd phase (Dec 15 2019):

  • Provide compensation of up to $1,000 for flight delays and cancellations within an airline’s control that are not safety-related
  • Rebook or refund passengers when flights are delayed, including, in some cases, using a competing airline to get passengers to their destination
  • Provide food, drink and accommodation when passengers’ flights are delayed
  • Facilitate the seating of children under 14 years in close proximity to an accompanying adult, at no extra charge
Canadian Air Passenger Protection Regulations coming Summer 2019 | News (dailyhive.com)
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Old Feb 9, 21, 1:02 pm
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Originally Posted by mileageking View Post

Air Canada ordered to pay Comox Valley family $3,000 over missed flight under new regulations

Interesting read. Air passenger protection regulations resulted in a favorable outcome for this family.

Air Canada ordered to pay Comox Valley family $3,000 over missed flight under new regulations | Times Colonist

From Canadian Transportation Agency on first phase of regulations as of July 15 2019:




2nd phase (Dec 15 2019):
It's good news that the plaintiffs were able to get a favourable judgement without having to go through the slow and sometimes airline-friendly CTA.
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Old Feb 10, 21, 12:38 pm
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My 78 year old mother-in-law flew FLL-YUL-YYZ earlier this month. Flight out of FLL was delayed and she missed the connection in YUL. She was told that the next available flight was the following morning at around 6:00am. They refused her hotel or food vouchers. She sat in the airport for 11 hours overnight. I helped her fill in the online compensation form and within 4 days she received an email saying they were e-transferring her $1000 for the delay.
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Old Feb 10, 21, 4:42 pm
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Originally Posted by ac/elite View Post
My 78 year old mother-in-law flew FLL-YUL-YYZ earlier this month. Flight out of FLL was delayed and she missed the connection in YUL. She was told that the next available flight was the following morning at around 6:00am. They refused her hotel or food vouchers. She sat in the airport for 11 hours overnight. I helped her fill in the online compensation form and within 4 days she received an email saying they were e-transferring her $1000 for the delay.
Pretty sad and unfortunate especially at her age that she had to spend 11 hours overnight at YUL. Happy to hear on the $1k comp.
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Old Aug 9, 21, 10:33 am
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Interesting read in the Financial Post - Aug 9, 2021

Canada's air passenger rights law blasted by court after $400 claim takes year and a half — and then fails

It also raises questions of whether Air Canada, which just got a $5.9 billion government bailout, should be fighting $400 refunds for 18 months at a time


https://financialpost.com/transporta...and-then-fails
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