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Gquie Dec 19, 2019 6:46 pm

Flight delayed due to crew availability
 
Hi. So my flight today from YYZ to YVR was delayed due to crew availability. We've now easily exceeded the first teir of the new compensation guidelines for delays within the airlines control. We are about 5.5 hours late on arrival so should be able to claim $400. Air Canada sent the passengers a text for a flight discount voucher. If we accept this does that mean we've forfeited the right to seek compensation under the new passenger rights framework? A few of us on the plane are reluctant to hit the "retrieve tour voucher" link because we are not sure if that means that is considered our compensation vs applying for the cash compensation.

I should note that AC has been fairly accommodating and are communicating regularly with us, provided us with food and drink as required, and the crew have been good considering everyone's frustrations.

Thank you!

rage Dec 19, 2019 10:50 pm

There might still be a gotcha if they try to claim the crew wasn't available because of weather.

Good luck! I hope you get the $400.

Altaflyer Dec 20, 2019 1:12 am

It’s reasonable to expect they would have standby crews, esp at YYZ to avoid such a lengthy delay. Don’t buy such an excuse if offered.

rage Dec 20, 2019 8:21 am

Yes, it's reasonable to expect, but as far as payouts go, it covers them.

theBeachBoy Dec 20, 2019 10:48 am

From Europe you get both voucher and compensation but seeing how the compensation rules are so weak in Canada I would not be surprised if it forfeits it.

Bohemian1 Dec 20, 2019 12:02 pm


Originally Posted by theBeachBoy (Post 31860743)
From Europe you get both voucher and compensation but seeing how the compensation rules are so weak in Canada I would not be surprised if it forfeits it.

Yeah, I'm really curious to see how this plays out. The OP is breaking some new ground here.

Sean Peever Dec 20, 2019 10:43 pm

With all the weather delays and cancelations on the east cost recently I don’t think AC will have any problem justifying that the crews were unavailable.

Gquie Dec 21, 2019 1:57 pm

Hi everyone. Thanks for the patience. I will update you as I find out more information.

The inbound crew was coming from yul and apparently they had some issues in yul that caused them to be delayed but the crew did not tell us what it was exactly.

I submitted a claim with AC under the air passenger protection framework and am waiting to hear back. The automated case email says they can take up to 30 days for a response and I have not claimed the sms compensation yet.

I suspect ac will do everything they can to avoid paying out and calling it a weather delay from yul. But in my non-legal, non-binding view is that a major hub like yyz without standby crews seems like something that would/should be within their control.

I'll update this thread as I receive their response. Thanks!

skybluesea Dec 21, 2019 3:12 pm

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flyertalker00973 Jan 3, 2020 11:59 am

As I know things are changing with the legislation commencing on the 15th December. I would like to hear if any of you would bother with pursuing any kind of compensation from AC and if so where to contact?

I flew YUL-YYZ-ZRH-CPH on the 31st and 1st of January in Y.
I arrived 5+ hours late in CPH due to delay out of YYZ, therefore missed connection in ZRH. It was not wheather related as far as I know....

YUL to YYZ AC flight number.
YYZ to ZRH LX flight number AC metal.
ZRH to CPH LX flight number.

I got a meal voucher in ZRH.

yyznomad Jan 3, 2020 12:06 pm


Originally Posted by GR15 (Post 31904967)
As I know things are changing with the legislation commencing on the 15th December. I would like to hear if any of you would bother with pursuing any kind of compensation from AC and if so where to contact?

I flew YUL-YYZ-ZRH-CPH on the 31st and 1st of January in Y.
I arrived 5+ hours late in CPH due to delay out of YYZ, therefore missed connection in ZRH.

YUL to YYZ AC flight number.
YYZ to ZRH LX flight number AC metal.
ZRH to CPH LX flight number.

I got a meal voucher in ZRH.

Was this due to crew availability issues?

flyertalker00973 Jan 3, 2020 12:12 pm


Originally Posted by yyznomad (Post 31905015)
Was this due to crew availability issues?

No, not as far as I know.
Mod, please move my post if you see fit :)

Gquie Jan 9, 2020 3:06 pm

Hi everyone, as mentioned I am following up to let you know about the result of my claim.

AC has responded and agreed to issue me $400 by way of cheque. I'm pleased with the outcome and did not need to provide any further details or documentation above and beyond what was originally included in the claim form.

All around a good experience. Well done Air Canada.

tracon Jan 9, 2020 4:40 pm

How much did you pay in airfare?

colombianbrew Jan 9, 2020 4:49 pm


Originally Posted by Gquie (Post 31930196)
Hi everyone, as mentioned I am following up to let you know about the result of my claim.

AC has responded and agreed to issue me $400 by way of cheque. I'm pleased with the outcome and did not need to provide any further details or documentation above and beyond what was originally included in the claim form.

All around a good experience. Well done Air Canada.

were you able to claim the voucher too?


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